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Author Topic:   Genesis 1 vs. Genesis 2
Rei
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Message 29 of 149 (146519)
10-01-2004 3:18 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by dpardo
10-01-2004 3:03 PM


It says that Gods (Elohim) created (Bara') man ('Adam) in his own image; male (zakar) and female (n@qebah) he created (bara') them.
The stem is a qal verb pattern; it means simple or casaul action of the root. Example:
he sat, he ate, he went, he said, he rose, he bought
The mood of the verb is perfect. Perfect expresses a completed action, and is often used where the present is used in English. Occasionally it refers to a future act for which there is a high degree of certainty (for example, "I give thee..."), and it can refer to a past act "having been done" with respect to the current context.
For example, I could say "I ran to the store. I had finished cleaning the kitchen." "Had finished" would be perfect mood, because while it describes something that took place in the past, it took place consecutively to "I ran to the store".)
An example of this kind of usage in the bible is "God saw everything he had made...". "had made" is the proper translation of the perfect tense, because it takes place after he made everything.
You may remember this sort of stuff from grammar: Past perfect refers to an event that occured in the past relative to the current frame of reference (which can be anything), Perfect (or "present perfect") refers to an event that occured in the present relative to the current frame of reference, and Future perfect refers to an event that will occur in the future relatve to the current frame of reference.

"Illuminant light,
illuminate me."

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Rei
Member (Idle past 7043 days)
Posts: 1546
From: Iowa City, IA
Joined: 09-03-2003


Message 35 of 149 (146528)
10-01-2004 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by dpardo
10-01-2004 3:22 PM


quote:
a. The author contradicts himself in the very next chapter.
or
b. Some people may have interpreted Genesis 2 incorrectly.?
Or C. That over a period from 1150 BC to 400 BC, the various literary traditions - J (Judah, notable for the use of Yahwehist language), E (Elohimist language, from the Northern kingdoms), D (Deuteronomist), and P (Priestly tradition) were established and merged together into the Pentateuch (JEPD); J and E gelled around 910 BC, and are reasonbly closely related. D was established around 700 BC under Hezekiah, and revived under Josiah (621 BC), and the priestly tradition which merged the various traditions after the Israeli reunification apon return from Babylonian exile (400s BC).
Genesis 1 is priestly tradition; Genesis 2 is J/E.

"Illuminant light,
illuminate me."

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