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Arkeologist
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Message 576 of 860 (129482)
08-02-2004 4:06 AM
Reply to: Message 572 by Yaro
08-02-2004 1:49 AM


Re: My own Hypothesis
So your first valve wheel is from near Cornwall, England north of Land's end from a local wreck known as "Gun Wreck". Let me know when you find a 5 spoke ancient Egyptian chariot wheel like this 5 spoke valve wheel.
"Four-spoke wheels prevail until near the end of the fifteenth century BC, when six-spoked wheels become the standard, with occasional eight-spoked exceptions" Mary A Littauer and J. Crouwel, "An Egyptian Wheel in Brooklyn," Journal of Egyptian Archaeology, vol. 65 (1979).
"Professor Yigael Yadin maintains that during the earlier part of the 18th Dynasty, the Egyptian chariot was `exactly like the Canaanite chariot:' both were constructed of light flexible wood, with leather straps wrapped around the wood to strengthen it, and both utilized wheels with four spokes. In Yadin's eyes, the four-spoked wheel is diagnostic for dating purposes; it is restricted to the early part of the 18th Dynasty. It remained in vogue, he says, until the reign of Thutmoses IV, when `the Egyptian chariot begins to shake off its Canaanite influence and undergo considerable change.' Yadin believes that the eight-spoked wheel, which is seen on the body of Thutmoses IV's chariot, was an experiment by the Egyptian wheelwrights, who, when it proved unsuccessful, settled thereafter for the six-spoked wheel. So widespread and meticulous is the delineation of the number of wheel spokes on chariots depicted on Egyptian monuments that they can be used as a criterion for determining whether the monument is earlier or later than 1400 BC." James K. Hoffmeier, "Observations on the Evolving Chariot Wheel in the 18th Dynasty", Journal of the American Research Center in Egypt (JARCE), no. 13, (1976)
Your next photo of another valve wheel is most likely made of iron. In fact the middle "hub" looks rusty. Let me know if you find an Egyptian chariot wheel made of heavy iron. It does have six spokes - I'll give you credit for finally getting that right!
Your next example of a sunken Japanese patrol boat "Valve wheel near the port side stern" would make an interesting chariot wheel with "handles" or some type attached to it's rim (see top of crusted valve wheel in that photo). Were those needed for what? Changing the tire? Let me know when you figure out that one. I'm truly interested in this new chariot wheel style you've discovered!
The last example of valve wheels comes from the 300 foot, long 1500 ton, Japanese WWII destroyer "Fumizuki" laying off of Udot Island in 90 -125 feet of water.
Notice most of these are pretty much heavy iron wheels attacked to the ship. I don't see any resemblance to the artifacts off of Nuweiba, Egypt's coast.
I think though I've found a new chariot wheel with an interesting studded traction design on it's outside rims! See below!
Maybe it's a royal Assyrian chariot wheel from the 7th century BC which had studded tires. (E. Strommenger, "5000 Years of the Art of Mesopotamia" (New York, 1964), pls. 248 and 253; J. Spruytte, "La Roue Du Char Royal Assyrien", Revue d'Assyriologie et d'Archeologie Orientale, vol. 1, 1994, fig. 8). Probably one of those failed first designs by some 1st year engineering student in the Assyrian College of Chariot Design! (GRIN)
Ok Ok I lied. It's a docking wheel from a 14 meter long harbor boat sunk in Dili Harbor in 1999 in East Timor.
Anyway, here are three people who have seen good examples of chariot wheels while diving at Ron Wyatt's crossing site:
Elfred Lee, an artist, saw one in 80 feet of water while diving with Ron Wyatt in 1988 and drew this sketch.
Eric Lembke and a friend of his, Rory (don't have his last name at this moment), from Paradise, CA saw a 4 spoke chariot wheel in December 1998. Here's what Eric said:
So I go down 80 ft and five ft from the bottom and all of a sudden I noticed a chariot wheel. It had 6 spokes and I could make out how round it was. [Eric makes a circle with his hand].I could make out the round hub. It was similar to the one we saw in Cairo at King Tutankhamun's exhibit.
When Rory saw it his eye's got big. I mean big. He went straight down and started yanking on it trying to pull it up. And he was kicking up silt. I tried getting his attention to get him to stop. I could tell he was breathing hard and he ran out of air so I shared my air with him and we went straight up forgetting to pause as we're supposed to. I felt a little dizzy after that. It was the first day of diving and when I discovered the part it was getting dark.
On the second day we went down again but we couldn't find the part. Ron was able to photograph an eight-spoked one, however. Once you get your eyes off something it's hard to find it again. It's a grayish blue down there.
The currents there are always changing and moving the sediments. One day the parts may be covered and another day it's completely exposed. The bottom is always moving constantly."
This message has been edited by Arkeologist, 08-02-2004 03:17 AM

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