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Message 9 of 21 (29538)
01-19-2003 1:37 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Brian
01-17-2003 10:23 PM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Brian Johnston:
[B]
quote:
Originally posted by DaveF:
Can anyone explain why only select members of the Twelve Apostles have Gospels?
Why then would an eyewitness rely on a non eyewitness account? Also, Papias said that Matthew wrote the word (logoi) in Hebrew, and the gospel of matthew we have today shows no signs of trnaslation from Hebrew into Greek.
Brian

Hi again Brian, some interesting points here, but I'll just reply to one if that's ok..
IIRC papias is supposed to have said that Matthew wrote in the hebrew dialect/tongue (I think it is 'dialektos' although i could well be wrong...not sure how I can check at the moment), and I think in this place the writer could have been more specific and said language.
This and the fact that Aramaic seemed to have been the common tongue of hebrews at this time may indicate that Aramaic was meant here rather than hebrew which I believe had become a "holy" language by this time.
Now we in the west have been assured that the NT was penned in Greek, or (perhaps in a semitic tongue "Q" which has now been lost).
No eveidence is ever supplied for this, and if I might be so bold, I would suggest that this claim deserves our scepticism.
Most bible students are surprised, not only to hear that there is an Aramaic NT, but that assyrian Christians (God luv'em) get a little feisty on this point and tell us in no uncertain words that their NT , in Aramaic is what the greek was translated from.
"With reference to....the originality of the Peshitta text, as the Patriarch and Head of the Holy Apostolic and Catholic Church of the East, we wish to state, that the Church of the East received the scriptures from the hands of the blessed Apostles themselves in the Aramaic original, the language spoken by our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and that the Peshitta is the text of the Church of the East which has come down from the Biblical times without any change or revision."
Mar Eshai Shimun
by Grace, Catholicos Patriarch of the East
I think the problem has been is that western believers particularly in the wake of the reforamtion and "sola scritura" and all that, merely asserted that the greek is original, reliable etc...
I have however come to the conclusion that our the COE is right and the Aramaic is the original.
I also beleive their is evidence to support this.
We acn look at some sometime if anyone is interested.

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