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Author Topic:   My mind's in a knot... (Re: Who/what created God?)
fallacycop
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Message 48 of 156 (493162)
01-06-2009 5:00 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Agobot
01-06-2009 7:48 AM


Re: Uncaused First Causes
Rahvin, are you at least partly aware that according to the brightest physicists of our time, we are still Civilisation type 0 out of Civilisations 0, 1, 2 and 3? It means our development is a type 0, our knowledge is type zero and all we know about reality, existence and our world is very likely no more than a fraction of a percent of all there is to know.
What's that suposed to mean?
Your belief and jumping to premature conclusions that there is no god makes as much sense as the belief in the talking snake or the god that took a day off after working for 6 days to create the universe.
Then anything goes. is that it?
I am willing to believe that in our collective experience of this consensual reality, no one has probably seen god, but in the 19 century no one had seen Pluto. Does this mean that Pluto does not exist?
So far no one has seen the flying spaghetti monster either. Do you think it exists?
Edited by fallacycop, : typo

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fallacycop
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Message 153 of 156 (494722)
01-18-2009 2:40 AM
Reply to: Message 152 by mindquaker
01-17-2009 2:16 PM


Re: supremacy
a creation is limited, it does not in a way exists beyond the creator' limits, its a subset not equal to the true set, we humans created supermonsters- computers but they are not in a way superior than us, from memory to accueacy.
That's factually incorrect. Computers can do many tasks better then their creators. That's why we created and use them.
with available resources i can not create anything better than i.
I do not doubt that.
it will always be a lesser model. we are lesser models we cannot go beyond to question the creator of God.He is the one in a better position to ponder on that, but because he tells across religion that he is the self existent, we may just flow with that.
That would be the case if we had any good reason to actually believe that god is speaking to us. Religions are man made institutions.
and that may logicaly make sense because with events there is no infinite regression.
Hard to get any meaning out of that one.
Edited by fallacycop, : fix quote box

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fallacycop
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Message 156 of 156 (494817)
01-18-2009 11:47 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by mindquaker
01-18-2009 7:11 AM


Re: supremacy
you never understood, and you will never fool me, take your time! start with analysis, then disect, and make sense out of your disections, make ur argument, revise it then post it.
supremacy exist out of our space and time dimensions its not bound to physical laws of our universe(1), if we assume its our originator then we have no chance of figuring out what created it, we cant get into its mind just like as computers has no access top our thoughts. fallacycop you need training.
Oh no! Another crackpot...

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