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jar
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Message 4 of 130 (197226)
04-06-2005 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Phat
04-06-2005 6:50 AM


... an Episcopalian minister who converses with God ...
will only be believable if it is set in a pub. LOL
From Robin Williams:

10. No snake handling.
9. You can believe in dinosaurs.
8. Male and female God created them; male and female we ordain them.
7. You don't have to check your brains at the door.
6. Pew aerobics.
5.
Church year is color-coded.
4. Free wine on Sunday.
3. All of the pageantry - none of the guilt.
2. You don't have to know how to swim to get baptized.
And the Number One reason to be an Episcopalian:

1. No matter what you believe, there's bound to be at least one other Episcopalian who agrees with you.


Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 35 of 130 (197701)
04-08-2005 3:34 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by StormWolfx2x
04-08-2005 3:40 AM


Re: upside down
An Islamic state, by defintion, would preclude practicing other religions in peace.
Not if they follow what Muhammad taught.
This is a message written by Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, far and near, we are behind them. Verily, I defend them by myself, the servants, the helpers, and my followers, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them. No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be changed from their jobs, nor their monks from their monasteries. No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims' houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God's covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they (Christians) are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate. No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, this is not to take place without her own wish. She is not to be prevented from going to her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation is to disobey this covenant till the Day of Judgment and the end of the world."
Muhammad not only taught freedom of religion but it was also the norm, law and practice until very recently. It has only been since the rise of the Wahhabi sects under al-Wahhab that any conflicts arose.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 50 of 130 (197963)
04-09-2005 9:27 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by IANAT
04-09-2005 8:38 PM


Re: you have biased views of Islamic state
Non-Muslims can practice their religion at home in peace without interference. They do this now.
They must be able to do so in public as well.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 66 of 130 (198078)
04-10-2005 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by IANAT
04-10-2005 1:15 PM


As a very religious person I ask you ...
why would you think that Atheism has anything to do with immorality?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 80 of 130 (198359)
04-11-2005 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Phat
04-11-2005 4:04 PM


When I die ...
I want to die like my Grandfather, peacefully in my sleep, and not screaming in terror like the guy in the passenger's seat.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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