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Author Topic:   Existence of Demons (and Angels)
Angeldust
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Message 50 of 303 (189679)
03-02-2005 3:49 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Xenocrates
12-06-2004 12:38 AM


These conversations only seem to go one way.......
Can you prove the existance of angels/demons?
NO, but I can give stories
Could these encounters be caused by anything else?
Yes, I suppose they could
Then we can conclude that in the absence of any real evidence to the contrary, these were caused by drugs, or mental disorders.
Fortunately, and unfortunately, they have a point about stories not being evidence (if all stories were considered evidence for things, the world would make a whole lot less sense)and also about some things likely being caused by drugs/mental disorders.
However, I will agree with you on the existance of demons/angels. There really does come a point in one's Christian life where it would be dishonest to oneself to deny what you have seen/experienced.
Have I seen personally? Yes. Do I have friends that have seen personally? Yes. Will someone follow this post and ask if I've done drugs? Probably. the answer? No.
I have stories. I have what I believe because of experience. Will I convince anyone else? No, probably not. It's not really my goal here to seek to change someone mind, I'm just looking for opinions and good information.
Some people's paradigm allows them to believe. Some people's doesn't. I'm always up for a good story though, if you've acquired the first hand accounts you were looking for.

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Angeldust
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Message 58 of 303 (189794)
03-03-2005 1:29 PM
Reply to: Message 57 by LinearAq
03-03-2005 1:16 PM


Re: Anecdotes away!
Not that you necessarily have to believe to encounter them, but two things come into play.
1. People who don't first believe will be more likely to try and explain it away. You can explain anything away if you don't want to believe in it. Granted, the opposite is also true.
2. If these beings have the purposeful existance as presented in scripture, demons wouldn't appear because than you'd have reason to believe in them and it works more in their favour if you don't.
Class is about to start so I don't have time to tell stories, but I will try to get back later to do it.

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