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Phat
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Message 4 of 84 (338887)
08-10-2006 7:45 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by RickJB
08-10-2006 7:29 AM


Attempting to clarify my Belief Statement
I have learned a lot from interaction with other people concerning my personal faith and belief in God. In 1993, when I made a serious proclamation to God in front of a large group of people, I actually experienced quite an emotional catharsis and believe to this day that I became aware of God more fully at that point in time.
While I respect those who always put internal logic and critical thinking skills ahead of any so-called Leaps of Faith, I am glad that I took my leap. I believe that God is real and personable. I don't need to hear a verbal voice in the air or even a confirmation from another human to verify that God is real.
At EvC, Jar has given me a different insight into faith that I had never encountered before. Almost Jewish.
There is a learning curve for a beliver which starts at what they have been taught and ends at what they actually decide to believe.
Of course you have heard it said that an untested faith is a weak faith.
One of these days, I will clarify and expand upon this topic more thoroughly when I make a belief statement in the columnists corner.
To answer your question as to how close I am to my God, I can only say that I am unaware of Him being near or far...He just is.
I would declare Him to be much nearer to me than Him being distant and unknowable, however. He speaks to me in so many different ways.

“There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, "All right, then, have it your way” --C.S.Lewis

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Message 8 of 84 (339046)
08-10-2006 6:27 PM
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08-10-2006 1:58 PM


Re: Attempting to clarify my Belief Statement
Ringo writes:
I would think that one would aspire to getting continuously closer to God by learning more.
Im not sure that closeness with God is achieved the same way that it is with other people.
Take me and you, for example.
We can learn more about each other through communication. Being on the web, we have no non-verbal communication, unless I were to prejudge you based on your avatar! however....
Reading each others posts, compiling replies, and forming an opinion of the character of the other person is our means of forming (or not) a bond.
God, IMB and by contrast, offers another dimension of impartation.
I think that another way of getting closer to God, for me at least, is getting closer to others who know or claim to know Him. The good vibes kinda rub off on everyone!

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Message 26 of 84 (339406)
08-11-2006 8:36 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by robinrohan
08-11-2006 6:52 PM


Exclusive or unique?
Lets consult Mr. Dictionary.
exclusiveadj 1 : reserved for particular persons 2 : snobbishly aloof; also : stylish 3 : sole <~ rights>; also : undivided syn chic, modish, smart, swank, fashionable exclusive n exclusively adv exclusiveness n exclusivity
Are you exclusive, Robin? Or are you unique?
unique adj 1 : being the only one of its kind : single, sole 2 : very unusual : notable uniquely adv uniqueness n
Some Christians use the exclusivity argument as a group to assert that Heaven is reserved for them.
Others are not so sure of the intentions and preferences of God.

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Message 27 of 84 (339409)
08-11-2006 8:43 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by robinrohan
08-11-2006 7:50 PM


god separates the wheat from the chaff. we do not.
Robin writes:
You don't? I do. All the time.
Yes, Robin. Humans prefer some people over other people, but we have no right or idea in saying who is and is not in da club, so to speak.
Maybe in the end, God chooses the oats and not the wheat!
The point is that it is God who does the choosing. I suppose that a wag could say that it is we who choose which God as much as it is God who chooses which "we".

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Message 53 of 84 (340490)
08-16-2006 11:42 AM
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08-16-2006 9:05 AM


Mimicing the Big Guy
RickJB writes:
At that point WE, in a sense, could become God and yet still be none the wiser as to the "truth" of our own universe's origins.
Does that mean that we could start tithing to ourselves? (Oops, we already do that!)

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