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When did Homo Sapiens become 'in the image of God' ?

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Teapots&unicorns
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06-24-2009 8:23 PM 		Reply to: Message 15 by bluescat48
06-22-2009 9:56 AM

Huh... I've never thought about this. Blue and RADZ do have a point. If any evolutionist Christian says that humans are spiritually different than animals, then where, along the chain of evolution did we get that relationship with God? Of course, they could just say that all organisms have it and it showed up in Man through evolution... but then why not treat all animals (and protists!!!!) as equals? Oh yes, the whole "dominion" thing..........
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Or, maybe, it's a mutation!!! No-wait-not testable. (mutter, mutter)
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06-25-2009 7:26 AM 		Reply to: Message 20 by Blue Jay
06-25-2009 7:17 AM

Most would probably consider the "fallen/sinful" state to be a corruption of our original "good" nature.
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In short, we maintain some of God's qualities (intelligence, knowledge of good and evil, etc.), but not all of them.
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How are you looking at this question? Is it from a creationist point of view or evolutionist? Because this topic is mainly useless in the eyes of IDers, it is (I'm guessing) mainly directed at theistic evolutionists.
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Also, are you talking about fallen/sinful "animals" here? I'm not sure I understand your response.........
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I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
- Stephen Roberts
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I'm a polyatheist - there are many gods I don't believe in
- Dan Foutes
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"In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has widely been considered as a bad move."
- Douglas Adams
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06-25-2009 7:34 AM 		Reply to: Message 22 by Granny Magda
06-25-2009 7:29 AM

Aaaah, you're a Scientologist!
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No, just one of those excommunicated sects. (They prefer to imagine God as Darth Vader)
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06-25-2009 8:23 AM 		Reply to: Message 24 by Meddle
06-25-2009 7:56 AM

Anyway isn't scientology the one with all those folk coming to earth, lining up at volcanoes, and getting blown up by nuclear bombs by Ming the Merciless, or whoever? Yes the scifi references just keep on coming
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Actually, I think it's the Galactic Lord Xenu. LOL.
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06-25-2009 3:08 PM 		Reply to: Message 26 by Blue Jay
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Re: Aside: Blue Man Group
Sorry Bluejay. I meant you and bluecat.
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I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
- Stephen Roberts
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I'm a polyatheist - there are many gods I don't believe in
- Dan Foutes
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"In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has widely been considered as a bad move."
- Douglas Adams
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06-27-2009 9:25 PM 		Reply to: Message 44 by Dr Adequate
06-27-2009 9:21 PM

Re: In the image of GOD
I notice that you are pretending that everyone who accepts the results of scientific inqury is an atheist.
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I think it is fair to say that everyone participating on this thread knows that you are lying. The effort is therefore superfluous.
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I wonder if he has ever heard of an evolutionist theist?
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I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
- Stephen Roberts
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I'm a polyatheist - there are many gods I don't believe in
- Dan Foutes
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"In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has widely been considered as a bad move."
- Douglas Adams
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06-29-2009 8:26 AM 		Reply to: Message 46 by Meddle
06-29-2009 6:06 AM

In other words, if the 'image of god' thing is not referring to physical attributes, but is instead related to some part of our psychology, then there would be difference between gifting it to an evolved ape at the appropriate time or choosing a created kind from day six.
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Yes, but if God did intervene once we evolved, then did he directly change our DNA/Psyche? Or did he give us "souls" (yes, I am a materialist).
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I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
- Stephen Roberts
​
I'm a polyatheist - there are many gods I don't believe in
- Dan Foutes
​
"In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has widely been considered as a bad move."
- Douglas Adams
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