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Author Topic:   Uncreated Creator Argument
DD2014
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Message 1 of 80 (504036)
03-24-2009 5:46 AM


This is what many Theists use to prove "God" and no matter what you say, they always refer back to this...
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Nothing in nature happens all by itself, not the big bang, nor a singularity, nor any supposed cycles of the universe, nor any proposed multiple dimensions. Therefore, there is only one possibility available for the cause of our existence and the universe which is the uncreated creator did it.
There cannot be an eternity of the past either of gods creating gods in the supernatural realm because we would have been derived from that past and would not still be sinning by now due to the exponential progression of conscience. Therefore, know that God did it! He is uncaused and has always existed.
Is this a valid argument or is it just circlular resoning?
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DD2014
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Message 4 of 80 (504090)
03-24-2009 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by AnswersInGenitals
03-24-2009 2:32 PM


Re: Theology: a branch of logic in which all arguments are valid.
So there is no limit to what someone could claim exists, baced on that logic?
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DD2014
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Message 7 of 80 (504115)
03-24-2009 5:31 PM
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03-24-2009 4:34 PM


Re: Albino Crows
Thanks Bluejay,
I understand that a lot better with that analogy.
The only problem is many people that use the uncreated creater arrgument claim to know "what makes God an albino crow" and circle back to "The uncaused uncreated creator is the only possability givin 'he' or 'it' created everything" it makes no sense to me personally, I don't know if it is because I am a realist, they are just stupid, or some other reason not known to me?

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DD2014
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Message 10 of 80 (504137)
03-24-2009 7:50 PM


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But Rahvin nothing is eternal!
Except God
And the Invisible Pink Unicorn!

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DD2014
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Message 12 of 80 (504142)
03-24-2009 8:03 PM
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03-24-2009 7:53 PM


Re: Tut Tut
I was just joking, but perhaps we can discuss that someother time

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