Atheist Frendly Q&A

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I would include India and China, just for how they deal with unwanted girl-babies, before and after birth. 25 million in India alone.

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Makes you wonder why the world doesn't work to provide family planning education, raise the status of women everywhere to be equal to men, and make birth control free and available to everyone, doesn't it?

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I find circular discussion distasteful and there is an admonition against it in Romans 1:29. And this discussion has become circular.

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I think you are confusing "circular arguments" with "arguments you are losing".

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As much as I would love to jump in and put my fist down... you know what I mean, this thread is a Q&A thread. It says so right in the title. What's a Q&A? Simply put, it is an ask-your-question and answer-your-question thread. Not a place to go into a deep debate.

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Yes, it certainly is not a place to go into a deep debate, but what I believe PG is doing is avoiding the follow up questions that people are asking him.Any time he gets backed into a corner, he claims that the argument has become "circular", which it really hasn't.I think this is a typical symptom of the kinds of discussions that are likely to happen in a thread like this:unbeliever 1: "If God says X in the Bible, why is it like Y here on Earth?Pecos George: Well, read this passage, and interpret it this way, and see, it all makes sense.highly-informed unbeliever 2: Well, no, you see if we consider how such things were done in a historical context, that doesn't make sense, and here's why...(in-depth explanation follows)Pecos George: (nervously backing out of the room) This discussion is becoming circlular and the Bible says I shouldn't engage in circulr arguments, so I'm going to quit.Generally, unbelievers ask too many questions.This message has been edited by schrafinator, 03-12-2005 08:33 AM

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I find circular discussion distasteful.

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Me too.The only problem is, what you call "circular", several of the rest of us call "refusing to admit that you were wrong or that someone else has a better argument than you."As far as I have been able to tell, the questions have been, indeed, honest.Your replies lead to more probing questions, but you get irritated at such probing, apparently preferring that we just accept your first answer and stop the continued questioning.Like I said, unbelievers generally ask too many questions and think too much to be content with pat answers from believers.

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May be you haven't dealt with PG that much before, but I assure you this is his regular behavior. I've learned to ignore him most of the time, so... waste your time if you want.

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Oh, I've dealt with him before, and I know it's a regular occurence.I'm an eternal optimist, though!

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I have shown from scripture that what is scriptural is foolishness to those of a not-spiritual mind. It means that scripture is foolishness to those who are not of a spiritual mind. I have not said you are foolish, I have not said anyone is foolish, I have said that there are those who are not spiritually minded to understand or accept scripture (at its word), and that requires a spiritual mind, not nature.

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OK, I get it.People who agree with you all the time and do not question your reasoning are spiritually-minded and anyone who disagrees with you or points out when you are in error is not spiritually-minded.Tell me, PG, how is this not a dressed up version of you telling us to just accept that you have all the answers and to shut up and stop questioning you?This message has been edited by AdminPhat, 03-17-2005 10:55 AM

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I hope your delusions of grandeur are not too painful.

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Tell me PG, which person is the more arrogant, the one who doubts what he knows, or the one who never doubts what he knows?