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Author Topic:   Origins of Hell
Archer Opteryx
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Message 21 of 28 (381343)
01-30-2007 5:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by SuperNintendo Chalmers
06-15-2006 12:08 PM


By the time of Alexander the Great the Greeks' idea of Hades had evolved into a picture featuring two distinct compartments: the Elysian Fields (Paradise), an eternal picnic for the blessed, and Tartarus, a place of torment for evil persons. From the Greeks the idea entered Judaism.
Yeshua's story of the rich man and Lazarus adopts the Greek model completely. The only difference is that the name of one locale gets a Jewish makeover: the poor man is said to find peace 'at Abraham's side' rather than in the Elysian Fields.
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Archer Opteryx
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Message 24 of 28 (381818)
02-02-2007 3:44 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by Greatest I am
01-31-2007 9:05 AM


Re: Hell
Are we thinking that God sits back happily looking at His garbage in the back corner of Heaven.
I think not. I think that there are no failures from God.
My post took no issue with anyone's metaphysics. I was addressing the question raised in the OP from a historical and cultural perspective.
What are the origins of hell as an idea? In Western culture the diea comes mainly from Greek myths about Paradise and Tartarus. The idea passed into Judaism in the Maccabean period and into Christianity after that.
Hence the fact that we have a thread on this subject at all. Why
are we discussing it? Because the empirical evidence for an afterlife is so everwhelming? No. Because the idea of eternal reward and punishment handed out by a personal deity is a longstanding feature of Western culture.
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