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Minnemooseus
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Message 4 of 28 (461811)
03-27-2008 9:54 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Buzsaw
03-27-2008 10:03 AM


The teachings of Christ
1. What you're advocating is to silently concede that the Genesis record is a myth and that creator Jehovah designed nothing.
My impression of message 1's content, without any viewing or consideration of the linked pages:
I think willietdog is conceding that the Genesis record, correct or otherwise, is not an important part of the essential Christian (as in, the teachings of Christ) doctrine. To you, how is the methodology of the creator God an important connection to the teachings of Christ?
Moose

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Minnemooseus
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Message 10 of 28 (461945)
03-28-2008 7:41 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Buzsaw
03-28-2008 12:22 PM


The all or nothing Bible?
If the Genesis account is myth there would be no viable reason to trust the rest of the Biblical record, including the gospel message of salvation.
So, the Bible is either a perfect source of information or a totally worthless source of information. Why can't the Bible be a flawed collection that still does include valuable information? I certainly think it can be.
If Genesis were thought to be a myth, I'd have no reason to think the gospels were as well.
I sort of agree, but this statement conflicts with the first quoted. Insert a "no" that shouldn't be there?
I may think that Genesis is a myth, and I may think that the Gospels are myth, but such considerations are independent of of each other. The Jesus Christ story has no dependence on the story of God's creation process.
Moose

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Minnemooseus
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Message 15 of 28 (461966)
03-28-2008 9:30 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Buzsaw
03-28-2008 8:12 PM


Re: The all or nothing Bible?
Moose writes:
So, the Bible is either a perfect source of information or a totally worthless source of information. Why can't the Bible be a flawed collection that still does include valuable information? I certainly think it can be.
If one is left to pick and choose according to one's personal whims, desires and ideology then it looses all authority and credibility. What author of a text book or history record would expect such application to one's work?
While one should not "pick and choose by personal whim etc.", readers and authors can and do recognize that errors, inaccuracies, distortions, and general misinformation can and does get into text books and history books. Hopefully such will get corrected in future editions. I'm anxiously waiting for the New New Testament of the Bible, to clarify and/or fix information in the Old and New Testaments.
History books are notorious for having distorted information. That's why one should have a degree of skepticism about the presented information. That's why one should look at multiple sources to confirm information. But just because some of the information is suspect, it doesn't mean that the rest of the information is equally suspect.
Moose
Edited by Minnemooseus, : Change "does not" to "should not".
Edited by Minnemooseus, : "present" changed to "presented".

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