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Author Topic:   Are Viri (viruses?) Alive?
NosyNed
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Message 1 of 30 (82342)
02-02-2004 8:54 PM


We have discussed the origin of life a lot. I don't think we've ever had any discussion on just what being "alive" means that came to any kind of conclusion.
I will come down on a particular side of this question. I think that viri are alive.
My reasons are that they use resources, reproduce and evolve.

Common sense isn't

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NosyNed
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Message 4 of 30 (82370)
02-02-2004 9:53 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by crashfrog
02-02-2004 9:06 PM


Ok, read this except from "The Fifth Miracle"
http://www.creationtalk.com/...age-board-forum/viewtopic.php
Now, this virus needed very special chemicals that couldn't reasonably be expected to be available outside the lab. But they were replicating without a cell around to help out. And some forms arose from what we can all agree (I think) are non living chemicals.

Common sense isn't

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NosyNed
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Message 6 of 30 (82384)
02-02-2004 10:17 PM
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02-02-2004 9:59 PM


Yea, I agree about the thin line. But this "thing" is replicating without a living cell and it is capable of evolving. How is that not alive?

Common sense isn't

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Message 10 of 30 (82456)
02-03-2004 2:08 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Silent H
02-03-2004 2:02 AM


Tapeworms
Or how about a tapeworm?

Common sense isn't

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