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Rahvin
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Message 33 of 86 (496800)
01-30-2009 6:21 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by John 10:10
01-30-2009 5:59 PM


Re: Explaining evolution, likely in vain
OK, why don't you start with the simplest life form of your chosing, put it in a test tube, shake it up for a few years, and see if a rabbit comes out. No, you can't do that because the theory of evolution says you have to wait millions/billions of years for meaningful changes to take place and real creatures to crawl out of that test tube.
That's an absurd strawman.
We can and have observed evolution happening, including not only new features forming over generations but also entirely new species arising from pre-existing populations, both in nature and in the lab.
Evolution has absolutely nothing to do with trying to evolve a rabbit from a "simpler" form of life. That you would resort to such a strawman suggests that you are either deliberately lying, are ignorant of the subject on the level of an 8-year-old who'se watched Pokemon to learn about evolution, or you're just an idiot.
I wouldn't take bets as to which is true.
That's precisely why the theory of evolution is not real science, nor ever will be. Real science is science that can be proven to be true in the time frame of a human's life span to a high degree of accuracy. "So-called evolutionary science" is worthless when it comes to true science, and produces no worthwhile good for mankind.
Literally all of modern biology is based on evolutionary theory. Nearly every biological technology we have, from medicines (especially antibiotics) to genetics to modern farming is based wholly on evolution.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You have no idea the amount of products you likely use every day that you have because of the Theory of Evolution, or which are affected by it. Ever hear of those "superbugs" we worry about in hospitals? They exist because of evolution - we applied selective pressure to various germs by using antibiotics, and so the few individuals with mutations allowing them to resist those particular antibiotics were able to thrive without competition. That's evolution. HIV is thus far impossible to cure because of it's extremely high mutation rate. That's evolution.
Every freaking year, biology students in Universities around the world perform real-world experiments where they directly observe evolution taking place, where they apply a selective pressure to a test population (usually flies) and watch the features of the population change over generations. That is evolution.
It has been proven to be highly accurate within the lifespan of a human being, as if such a definition meant anything anyway. You're simply haven't figured it out yet because you're clinging dogmatically to your ignorant beliefs.
I've been working in the nuclear energy business for over 44 years. The science of nuclear fission was first discovered and proved in 1939 that atoms were fissioning to a very high degree of accuracy. By 1945 atomic weapons were developed from this nuclear science. In the 1950's, nuclear science was engineered into nuclear propulsion systems and nuclear power plants. Now over 20% of our electric energy comes for nuclear power, and about 80% in France.
How long is the half-life of Uranium-238, genius? It's about 4.47 billion years. Is your own industry, which depends on science that occurs over an even longer timespan than evolution, not a "true science?"
Your ignorant comments merit only ridicule and scorn.
That's what true science can and should do, learn what makes matter tick, and then transform that matter into all forms of useful products. When it comes to life, learn what makes plants, animals and humans tick, and then help them get well when they get sick.
Which is exactly what the Theory of Evolution has done.
True science does not deal with "theories of evolution" that can never be proven in a labortory or in the wild because they are not testable due to the tremendous time frames needed to show if they really work.
Again, evolution has been directly observed both in the lab and in the wild.
Yes, some people at this forum need to learn some basic education of what true science is all about.
Indeed, some people do. I think being sent back to about the 7th grade would do wonders for your understanding of science.

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