Western Philosophy and cracks...

Philosophy is a hard thing these days, it's almost impossible to get past semantics. There is plenty of real philosophy going on in the west it's just that it's being done by artists and musicians, in the comforts of coffe shops.------------------
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This is why people with artistic minds are the better philosophers. Unfortunately it takes like minded people to see what they are getting at. If you take analytical thinking too far you ruin the whole idea of philosophy. This is where the semantic games come in. I find that metaphor is a more effective way of expressing an idea than a mathematical equation. Although I guess that depends on who you are trying to express your idea to. If you are trying to convey an idea to a mathematical mind then I am quite wrong in saying metaphors are more accurate. However if I am discussing an idea with a creative mind then I could not be more right.Language can be used effectively, as long as we look at what the speaker intended to say instead of looking into what we wanted them to mean.I think I just confused myself. ------------------
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After I started to think about why artistic minds are better philosophers, I realized that they are just the ones that I understand the best. Probably because they think similarily to me.I guess I don't have specific examples of "great" artist/musician philosophers. I just find from talking to these sorts of people that they are less restricted in this area because of the loose creative aproach.As far as my comment on analytical thinking, I more meant critical thinking. I've noticed that critical thinkers lack that ability to look at what a speaker is intending to convey.To me philosophy is a looser thing, more like art or music than science or math. If you get too hung up on nit-picking details, you ruin the process of philosophy.The semantic games, that frequently ruin philosophical discussion can be easily avoided by looking at the speakers intended meaning, instead of jumping to conclusions based on your own presuppositions.Not really sure what I just said or if it has any substance.------------------
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