Syamsu's Objection to Natural Selection...

Ouch.a bit vitriol for the constituents! The difference is your daughter doesn’t proclaim that she won the game upon its conclusion, sighting your nonsensical rules. This forum is intended to house debate. That means people with different agendas and communication skills are going to have input. Perhaps you should work on your own tolerance levels!

I have to admit I have personally stoped engaging him in debate. Not because of his poor arguments, but because he argued his point by lying about what I had posted. He is completely unswayable on any point, incapable of conceding even agreement on moot points. However, I am still interested to see where he goes whit his argument. Besides every 20 or 30 posts something new comes into his writing, or at least a new phrasing! Of course any thinking person can see his argument is without grounding. It’s becoming increasingly unlikely that he will add anything meaningful to his dialogue. So I concur with you mostly. But beware that daughter of yours; I first beat my father at chess when I was 10. LOL. The tide might turn on you soon!

True for atheists like myself but most evolutionists have faith and would disagree. For my own part I can think of little that offends me more that people who insist they are somehow better or superior to animals. This gives justification for all kinds of intolerable living practices.We all agree with your theory of no variation NS in cases of parthenogenesis, its not inconsistent with NS, so give it up.[This message has been edited by Autocatalysis, 07-11-2003]

It seems you have a better grasp of synmsus theory than do I. LOL. The only point that I would make is that in true parthenogenesis (thelytoky, ameotic type), the individuals could be considered to belong to individual species. In such a case you don’t have a population. But I agree its ridiculous way of thinking about it. Primarily because of niche theory. But, f there was only one individual in the species can NS apply to it? I think so. It reproduces or not. There is no population to spread alleles through. Heritability is zero. It becomes I little like the bizarre situation symatsu wants us to consider.