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Blue Jay
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Message 161 of 219 (467091)
05-19-2008 2:54 PM
Reply to: Message 156 by IamJoseph
05-19-2008 9:02 AM


Re: Bullshitting?
IamJoseph writes:
The seperation of state and religion comes from the OT...The prophet Nathan could have ordered King david's execution.
This is not separation of church and state: it is precedent of church over state, which is the exact problem the idea of "separation of church and state" was devised to combat.
IamJoseph writes:
Ex 23/ 2 Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil;
This is not the definition of democracy, regardless of what you insist. Democracy is rule by the people, which also includes rule by an "evil" people. (Demos = people, kratos = rule). This scripture is still insisting on "rule of religion" or "rule of God," ("theocracy," theos = god, kratos - rule). In this system (and in this scripture), people do not rule, they just obey.
IamJoseph writes:
This (Ex 23:2) means, you 'will' and must follow a majority which is not evil...
No, it doesn't. It means "thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil."

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