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kuresu
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Message 3 of 61 (482168)
09-15-2008 7:31 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by johnfolton
09-15-2008 6:30 AM


so where's your evidence? What land did we pressure Israel to give up during Katrina? Or this summer? Is it the threat of losing land or the actual loss of land, or both, that cause the disasters?
Does paying Isreal billions of dollars each year not count? Do you mean to say that so long as we prevent Israel from losing land we don't have to pay anything and we won't get hit by natural disasters? (Now there's a way to cut back on the budget and bring insurance rates down!)
What if we are struck by natural disasters where (and when) there is no connection to our dealings with Israel? Or are those natural disasters just a long-term punishment from God? How can you tell?
Seems to me you haven't thought it through at all.

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kuresu
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Message 15 of 61 (482236)
09-15-2008 2:52 PM
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09-15-2008 11:36 AM


Worldnetdaily is a crackpot's dream website.
It is notable that every disaster the truthorfiction site details is from 1989 to 1999. Certainly there are more, right? Israel is, after all, only 60 years old. Should be long enough to show that whenever we pressure Israel to do something contrary to the Bible we get slammed with something.
But at least its good to know that we can stop paying Israel billions of dollars per year.
Coincidences, no matter how "eery" are not causal relationships. It is up to you to prove the cause-effect relationship. Tough luck.

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kuresu
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Message 34 of 61 (482361)
09-16-2008 8:21 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by cavediver
09-16-2008 7:47 AM


I have a question for my spelunking physicist friend:
what natural disasters have struck the UK in the past 60 years?

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kuresu
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Message 38 of 61 (482441)
09-16-2008 5:00 PM
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09-16-2008 4:46 PM


Re: The true chosen tribe.
Odd, how God's punishment seems to be related more to natural atmospheric patterns than ideology...
You may be onto something here Rahvin.
There are two possibilities.
1)Religious people are attracted to dangerous places and concentrate there more than non-religious people. Maybe they feel more at home with god slinging lightning bolts and tornadoes?
2)Living in a disaster zone is likely to increase your belief in religion, or further cement any belief you previously had.
Thus, the secular north-east, which has few major natural disasters, and the religious deep south, which loves hurricanes and drought, and the bigoted midwest (only 'cause its the home of Phelps) with its F4 tornadoes.
Hmm. Nah, that can't be right.

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kuresu
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Message 40 of 61 (482444)
09-16-2008 5:05 PM
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09-16-2008 5:01 PM


Re: The true chosen tribe.
You would think it's difficult to miss with a hurricane the size of Ike, but I guess it's true.
Although, in god's defense, Bush does have property in Texas, was the governor of texas, and made a fly-by of the devastated region. So god can't aim, releases prematurely, and lets go too late. Not much of a bowler.

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