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Author Topic:   For whatever - your insult, and radioisotope dating
IrishRockhound
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Message 29 of 121 (76791)
01-06-2004 7:07 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by johnfolton
01-05-2004 8:31 PM


It never ceases to amaze me that you all have such patience when dealing with people who obviously don't seem to want to listen, and endlessly parrot off the most ludicrous claims imaginable...
Whatever - the Earth is 4.6 billion years old, but the Sun is only 13,000 years? Please explain this a little further. Did the Sun just appear in the sky, poofed into being by a god with a truly bizarre sense of humour? Why do you believe this? Perhaps you have some insight into the nature of existance that us mere mortals have not divined yet? If so, please share it with us - with evidence, if you will, as we have so kindly provided so much for you.
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Just because you can't date fossil imprints, or fossils, if there is no organic remains, however, they were able to date the pleistocene fossils found abundantly frozen in the Siberia, Alaska, etc...
Perhaps you don't understand. Fossils ARE dated - but by the rock they appear in. They are assumed to be the same age, because it is a physical impossibility that they appeared in the rock after it formed. Suggesting that it could happen implies that magic was involved somewhere - or maybe you could explain the process by which you think it could have happened? Or do we have to call on god again to poof them into it?
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Perhaps some of your K-T Tektites could of simply been formed during the biblical flood, even Walt Brown believes 35 percent of the sediments that erupted with the waters were the basalt, if it cooled suddenly, might explain some of your K-T Tektites, though likely the flood lifted up some of these sediments tranlocated them, supporting your asteroid or that they were formed by the erupting waters of the flood itself, etc...
Whatever - I think I might be able to set you straight here. I am a geologist, and I am somewhat familiar with the geology of Ireland at least. I have also read a good amount on this subject. I would like to offer my professional opinion, if you can stand to read it...
THERE IS NO GEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE FOR THE BIBLICAL FLOOD.
There isn't even a workable hypothesis of how it happened that doesn't involve magic or very shoddy science.
You seem to have problem with radiometric dating methods, which I can accept. I can argue the case for ancient fossils without mentioning those methods if you like.
By the way, I find your comments about palaeontologists covering up evidence or duping people to be very insulting. Let's avoid the spurious attacks in future, ok?
The Rock Hound

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IrishRockhound
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Message 71 of 121 (77000)
01-07-2004 2:23 PM


Having read the earlier posts, I'm beginning to suspect that Whatever is just trying to wind us all up. In any case, no one seems to be having any kind of effect on his ramblings.
I could be wrong. Whatever, if you have any interest at all in debating a biblical flood and how it could have produced the sediments we see today, I'd be happy to start another topic. As I said before, I will not refer to the radiometric methods you seem so set against, if you like.
The Rock Hound

  
IrishRockhound
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Message 93 of 121 (77131)
01-08-2004 10:07 AM
Reply to: Message 88 by johnfolton
01-07-2004 11:22 PM


Sorry I didn't spot this sooner... Whatever, I'm not sure what exactly you want to know here. Perhaps you'd better elaborate.
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the K-T boundaries probably were formed above the dinosaurs fossils through this mechanical principle of flood sediment fossils sorting, etc...
A flood would sort fossils by size. This is not seen in the fossil record. How more clear can we be?
By the way, I'm not sure how liquefaction is relevent here - isn't it a result of earthquake activity? Somebody correct me if I've mistaken it for something else...
The Rock Hound

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IrishRockhound
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Message 96 of 121 (77141)
01-08-2004 11:12 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by johnfolton
01-08-2004 10:39 AM


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The fossil records concur that the fossils came unto the scene suddenly, the sediments preflood, the cambrian age, show no bigger fossils
And this has to do with that exactly? This is called the Cambrian explosion. Do you think that all sediments post-Cambrian were caused by the Flood? If so, do you realise that this is impossible?
If "liquification" caused the dinosaurs to sink below the iridium layer, why didn't any mammals sink as well? Size has nothing to do with it; there were tiny dinosaurs as well as large ones. Why did some species sink all the way to the beginning of the Triassic, but others only sank a little way into the Cretaceous? Why were they so precisely sorted as they sank? Why didn't any dinosaur manage NOT to sink below the iridium layer? Do you have any idea what the hell you are talking about?
I say again: THERE IS NO GEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE FOR THE BIBLICAL FLOOD.
Whatever - I think you are getting fixated on the radioisotope dating side of things. Bear in mind that geologists had dated the Earth as being old long before these methods were ever invented - they simply confirmed what was already known.
The Rock Hound

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