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Author Topic:   Quick radiometric dating question- misused techniques
NosyNed
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Message 8 of 40 (516838)
07-27-2009 4:29 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Kitsune
07-27-2009 1:21 PM


Why too old.....
Hey, you talkin' 'bout me??
If you use K-Ar like Austin did, you will get a date that says it's millions of years old. If it's very young rock, then you are very very wrong. That is what Austin showed.
I haven't been a good boy and looked into what was said but I think you statement above is not precisely enough worded to be correct in this particular context. What the K-Ar method will show is that a young rock is no older than the minimum date it can measure. This is, again in this context, very different than saying it is as old as the minimum date that K-Ar is good for.
This is just like the inverted case of using C14 for very old materials. The date returned means that the material is at least as old as the maximum reasonable date for C14 dating methods.
ABE
Once you have the results saying that the rock is no older than the K-AR minimum date then you know you need another method to narrow it down. So it doesn't matter where you start you'll end up with the right answer. You'll just waste time and money going the longer way around.
Edited by NosyNed, : No reason given.

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Message 11 of 40 (516869)
07-27-2009 7:13 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Kitsune
07-27-2009 6:03 PM


You are mistaking me for.....
someone who actually knows what he is talking about.
I have never done or seen done or even read about the details of the procedures. I made the whole thing up but it is what is true about the methods until someone who knows says otherwise .

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NosyNed
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Message 12 of 40 (516871)
07-27-2009 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Coyote
07-27-2009 6:38 PM


Reporting ....
You might know the most minute of details for C14 dating at least:
If the sample's signal is lost in the background how is that reported?
In the context of this discussion there is an important difference between: The sample is 50,000 years old and the sample is at least 50,000 years old.
Do you have actual reports?

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Message 16 of 40 (516887)
07-28-2009 12:56 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Minnemooseus
07-27-2009 10:47 PM


Jumping methods
You responded to her and jumped to C14 dating, where there is a maximum possible datable age.
You were not responding to the subtheme that LindaLou was discussing.
I caused the jump. I know that Coyote can give precise details on C14 dating but not K-Ar dating. There is a strong parallelism between them as far as the wording of reporting. We'll have to wait until someone can give other method based reports.

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