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Author Topic:   Requesting assistance on "Creationism In Schools" paper
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Message 7 of 13 (89016)
02-27-2004 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Syamsu
02-27-2004 3:27 AM


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There is a very complex creationist argument saying that it is stated in the declaration of independence that people are created equal
No, it says that all men are created equal.
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with certain inalienable rights, and that this statement is the basis for the rights in the constitution. This is backed up by Thomas Paine, who was closely associated to the founding fathers, being expressely anti-evolutionist,
Um, what?
Thomas Paine couldn't have been an anti-evolutionist because he died in 1808. Charles Darwin was born that same year, and Origin of Species wasn't published until 1859, and also didn't gain wide acceptance for some time after that.
How could Paine have been anti-evolutionist when the idea hadn't really been born until after he died?
[quote]expressely against teaching the descendancy of life without reference to the creator.[quote] Really? Can you please paste a quote? Paine's writings are all over the internet. I found all of his books and many of his coresppondence online, so please be specific.
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The scientific merit of either evolution or creationism is basicly irrellevant in this argument.
Except that you have completely misrepresented the views of Paine.
He wrote the following about Genesis:
Take away from Genesis the belief that Moses was the author, on which only the strange belief that it is the word of God has stood, and there remains nothing of Genesis but an anonymous book of stories, fables, and traditionary or invented absurdities, or of downright lies. (Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason, 1794-1795. From Gorton Carruth and Eugene Ehrlich, eds., The Harper Book of American Quotations, New York: Harper & Row, 1988, p. 494.)
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Aside from that you can make a bad faith argument against the science of evolution. That since evolution scientists had supported a textbook containing much eugenics writing
Syamsu, this is a complete lie.
You have never shown any evidence that this is true, so you are lying, or at least making things up. Stop it.
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The solution against these kind of bad textbook would then be to put it up to a classvote which science should be taught (which creationism would win).
Which kind of creationism? Native American? Hindu? Samoan? Maori?
Christian?
There are hundreds of different creation myths. Don't we have to teach them all?

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