Creation DOES need to be taught with evolution

David Fitch,After studying the natural history of humans for 40 years, I find the best reason why creation science should not be taught in schools is this:My Dad used to say that a scoop of ice cream on a pile of manure does little to improve the pile of manure. Just a waste of ice cream. But a dip of manure on a dish of ice cream ruins it.Now, human beings are not designed to learn in schools. Schools for humans is a shitty idea. Humans are designed (you'd probably say, "adapted") to be taught by apprenticeship, in family settings. Schools are for fish, to get them to go with the group. As such, the placing of children in schools to be educated is just a very cruel and dirty trick, apt to make any lively young humans madder than hell and disinclined to trust anything else the scoundrels who run the place are likely to say. It would be a shame to place something as precious and wonderful as the story of creation in such a foul pit of despair.I once found a course in graduate school that I found useful. I dropped it immediately, although I went to all the classes and took the exams. By cutting out the grades and credit, and spending a lot of time with my major professor, I managed to actually learn something there without losing my mind.Meanwhile, I watch (cringing) the results of evolutionary teaching in school on the minds of the debaters here that want so desparately to believe that science actually supports the theory's plausibility. Who taught these people how to think? Those teachers ought to be taken out and horse-whipped!Stephen

Chiroptera,You ask, Yep. Bible Codes research is one of the best example of careful use of statistics in science I know. And the Codes controversy is a model, actually for the abusive way paradigm shifting research is treated by the defenders of the faith type scientists described by Kuhn. The code critics will find the same place in history as those disgusting individuals who found Semmelweis' studies on hand-washing in hospitals "flawed". And kept on delivering babies with hands soiled from autopsies. And kept on killing 25% of mothers delivering babies in hospitals. For 70 years.If hell doesn't exist, I'll be disappointed.Stephen

Tagless,I agree that public schools are an improvement on Sunday Schools. Precisely because they (public schools) leave the good stuff for walks with Dad to the fishing hole.Stephen

Tagless,You say, My biggest problem with schools is that they let "dad" off of the continuing education hook. Home education has a remarkably saluatory effect on the intelligence of the parents.But it's hard to find a good text-book on applied epistemology, which I now believe to be the most important subject that we can teach.Stephen