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jar
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Message 50 of 305 (394428)
04-11-2007 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by City_on_a_Hill
04-10-2007 8:20 PM


Copy Errors
Mutation are copy errors.
I am glad you brought that up since it is one of the most important things that led to humans.
One common copy error is making multiple copies of the same substance. It is like the early Xerox machines that every once in awhile seemed to take on a mind of their own and just kept spitting out copies as though it had forgotten how to count.
That type error is very important because it allows mutation to happen without loss of whatever the original function happened to be. When this error happens, one copy can be mutated and if the new version adds an advantage, or is neutral, it will get passed on.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Message 57 of 305 (394964)
04-14-2007 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by City_on_a_Hill
04-14-2007 10:57 AM


Stop and think for a moment.
So far all you are doing is repeating the Christian Cult of Ignorance Biblical Creationist Manifesto. It is pretty obvious from your posts that you have not even thought about the meanings of the things you write.
There are many scientists who question the theory of evolution.
Of course. That is the function of scientists and EVERY scientist working in the fields related to evolution question it constantly.
Of course, with any anti-evolutionary ideas censored from classrooms and from well-known "scientific" journals such as Nature and Science, and the "fact" that evolution has "mountains of evidence", it's amazing that there are any creationists out there.
That of course is also nonsense. Anti-evolutionary ideas are not censored from classrooms, but nonsense is. Biblical Creationism is kept out of Science classes because it CAN NOT be science.
Even the most simplest organism have hundreds of thousands of "letters" and hundreds of genes. The amount of information stored in DNA is millions times larger than the most advanced computer can hold.
Furthermore, cells must have an incredibly sophisticated editing process to ensure that each gene is reproduced error-free.
Once again, that is just a series of totally false statement that if you will stop and think for a second, you would realize were just lies told to you.
There are only four "letters" in DNA. Period. Four
The amount of information stored in DNA is NOT millions times larger than the most advanced computer can hold. That is so silly. We have sequenced many critters DNA and guess what? It was done with computers. Not even the most powerful computers but most often, plain old desktop pcs.
And the third sentence in that paragraph is also simply false. Copy errors happen all the time. The whole system modeled in the Theory of Evolution relies on copy errors as part of the mechanism.
The fossils simply does not support the theory of evolution. Neither does genetics or the experiments. They are just interpreted so they fit into the evolutionary model.
And two more examples of at best, ignorance, most likely simply accepting the word of someone who lied to you.

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jar
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Message 59 of 305 (394966)
04-14-2007 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 56 by City_on_a_Hill
04-14-2007 11:07 AM


Re: Copy Errors
True, but the amount of NET information of DNA is still the same.
Sorry but that is just more nonsense.
First, you need to define INFORMATION, second, describe how any such item is measured.
But it is still a very silly assertion.
If I have two copies of the same thing and one copy is modified to such that some second function is possible, I went from one function to two functions.
However, mutations simply does not produce new traits if the potential for variation incorporated in existing traits was not there. For example, mutations cannot produce new structures (livers, hearts, legs, arms, fingers, etc.) if they did not already exist.
I'm sorry but that is simply another example of your simply parroting the Christian Cult of Ignorance Biblical Creationist Manifesto.
Why not.
I just showed you one example of how that could happen above.
There is yet another possible way, one that again is supported by both genetic and fossil evidence. It is possible for something to be co-opted to serve a new function. Jaw bones can become ear bones.

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