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Dr Jack
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Message 2 of 50 (73310)
12-16-2003 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Admiral Valdemar
12-16-2003 10:10 AM


Psychology is a young science trying to work in a very hard area, and influential founders such as Jung and Freud did a wonderful job of getting it off on the wrong foot. However, more modern psychology has come a long way; in particular with Evolutionary Psychology such as that popularised by Stephen Pinker.
Improvements in neuroscience and the development of sounder experimental techniques will also help push it forward. My big hope is that it will drop some of it's pseudo-medical trappings and develop more useful diagnostic tools (most mental 'illnesses' aren't).
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Dr Jack
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Message 6 of 50 (73324)
12-16-2003 10:58 AM
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12-16-2003 10:49 AM


You may be confusing psychiatry and psychology here.
I was taught (the theoretical side of) Psychiatry as a branch of Psychology.

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12-16-2003 11:04 AM
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12-16-2003 10:37 AM


Hmmm... I think Neuroscience is to psychology as Physics and Chemistry are to Biology. Sure you can boil psychological questions down to answers in brain chemistry, but it probably won't give you meaningful answers.

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Message 21 of 50 (76594)
01-05-2004 6:21 AM
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01-03-2004 10:33 PM


One view of psychology sees the discipline much the way Neil Postman (1992) characterizes it: psychologists are capable of saying with a straight face, and no doubt thinking that they are contributing greatly to scientific knowledge, things like: "Depression is almost always a factor in the estimated 30,000 suicides in the United States each year." ... (And other such common-sensical knowledge stated in a similar fashion)
This strikes me as a classical example of valuable research being demeaned because it shows something we already 'know'. Remember also that clinical depression does not mean exactly the same thing as the common usage of the word.

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