I thought I just try myself to re-introduce this topic, because I want to comment on it, and the original poster seems to have left it.
http://www.arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0410/0410365.pdf
"PRINCIPLES OF THE THEORY OF VORTEX GRAVITATION
S. A. Orlov
Petrozavodsk State University"
"Therefore, the black hole is the center of rotation of the space torsion. As a result of this rotation and the gravitation created, a new celestial body must appear. That is, a black hole is not a collapse of a celestial body, but it is a newly-created space torsion."
So that's what's I've been saying all along, more or less. See a rock fall to the ground, see the space between the rock and the ground disappear, into the ground. Understood comparitively as water (space) swirling into a sponge (planet). Now I may have to really start believing what I've been saying.
regards,
Mohammad Nor Syamsu