Best approaches to deal w/ fundamentalism

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I find a lot of similarities between your "fundies" and the atheistic evolutionists.

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And where do theistic evolutionists fit in?

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No matter what evidence you bring forward, the fundamental Christian or the fundamental atheist with view it through their own set of glasses and block out things that are contrary to their own opinion.

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I guarantee that every atheist here would be absolutely delighted if you were to present evidence contrary to their beliefs. Please, feel free to begin a thread dedicated to evidence against an atheist or evolutionist point of view. I count myself in both camps, and assure you that I will examine any such evidence that you provide and block nothing out.

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For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack ObamaWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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The model that enables us to do the best job of predicting things which we then find to be true on observation is the model most likely to be true, even though we cannot prove it to be true by actual scientific repetition.

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The ToE allowed scientists to predict where they would find a particular transitional fossil, Tiktaalik.Please name one new discovery that came from creationism.

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By-the-way, how many men do you actually know with the name Kelly? I am not a he.

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My father-in-law is named Kelly. However, I recognize that there are also many women named Kelly, including my niece. For what it's worth, for some reason I assumed you were a woman.

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For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack ObamaWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

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Both creationists and evolutionists start with a hypothesis and then study the evidence to find support.

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No.An hypothesis doesn't pop out of thin air. It is based on evidence. After the hypothesis is proposed, further examination evidence will support or refute it, but it beings with evidence.This is the beginning of the difference between creationism and science. Creationism begins with an assumption that a certain body of evidence of "the truth," then evaluates all other evidence to try to fit it together in a coherent whole consistent with "the truth." Science begins with observations of evidence, then looks for more evidence. If subsequent evidence indicates that the original evidence or the conclusions therefrom were in error, the earlier error is acknowledged and discarded.There is no "truth" in science. There is data and conclusions, all of which is subject to revision based on new information or conclusions.{ABE}

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There is no way to see macroevolution.

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Please define what you mean by macroevolution.Edited by subbie, : No reason given.

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For we know that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus -- and non-believers. -- Barack ObamaWe see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat