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Originally posted by TrueCreation:
"I've got to say thats quite a good theory you have there. You've put me in a situation where I have to side with you on this one. I can't think of why they would be embaressed in 'perfection'. Its a very good point."
--I applaud your agreement on the subject, its hard to get agreement on these kinds of biblical implications in here, I mostly get a 'move to another listed subject' kind of response (notice LudvanB didn't reply ). Willingness to admit when their statements and comments were not quite right or incorrect is very much appreciated and well regarded as the height of intelligent debates and arguments in the discussion.
Sorry to interrupt this mutual patting on the back gathering with the FACTS but here goes...There is no reason to feel embarassement at ones nakedness if thats all you have even known...alledged biblical perfection nonwistanding,there are scores of people who today feel no shame whatsoever at spending their lives naked in our very imperfect world so your argument is totally invalid. Modesty is NOT a natural instinct...its a learned behaviour born out of the habit of wearing cloths. There was no such habit being portrayed in the early Genesis and so,no more reason for Adam and Eve to feel shame or embarasement at their nakedness than there would have been for having two arms or hair on their head...all these things were were completely natural and normal to human beings and we have to be taught to feel self consious. I can tell you that if you had never worn cloths in your life,being naked would seem perfectly natural to you and you would not understand the concept of shame at being nubile. Now if you want to say the the action of eating the apple INVENTED shame in their minds,meaning creating this feeling out of NOTHING WHATSOEVER,then i would agree with you...but thats not what the story says AT ALL. It is clear that the story says that eating the apple ALERTED them to the "fact" that public nudity was somehow wrong...wrong according to who's criteria,thats an interesting question since as i explained,according to the Bible God never considered nudity in any form as being "wrong". All of this tells me that this part of the story is merely the autors projecting THEIR cultural bias against public nudity onto the characters of their story,which is not at all unusual BTW....writers often portrays their characters in ways which reflects their own culture and set of beliefs even though those cultural bias are not necessarely appropriate to the setting where the characters are made to evolve in their stories. (ex: a contemporary author writing a story about young knights in the middle ages who conducts and attitudes reflects not middle age but rather contemporary values as was the case in the movie A knight's tale).
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