EvC Forum: Evolutionary idiocy (More or less standard dogma)?

Welcome to the fray here at EvC, chemscience,

I disagree that cosmology has “nothing to do with evolution”.

Unfortunately for you, you do not get to decide on this matter. Terms used in science are defined by the scientists doing the science and not by people who have barely (if at all) studied it. If you do not use the terminology as defined in science then you are talking babble about babble.

Simply speaking you are committing the logical fallacy of composition, whereby you are conflating all of science from cosmology to chemistry to geology to biology, etc. etc., into evolutionary biology. Sadly for you this just is not how science in general, and evolution in particular, work.

http://theautonomist.com/...permanent/fallacies.php#compofal

This is commonly used in advertising (eg attack ads) to conflate, say, a political opponent with muslims, say, and then conflate muslims with terrorsts ...

Creation of the universe without God MEANS creation of life w/o God. In my hand is THE ORIGIN OF LIFE by the late M. G. Ruten, Prof/Geology, Univ/Utrercht, Netherlands. The preface is by the illustrious evolutionist A. I. Oparin. which covers some of the same ground I did. Page 155 presents:

This is called the logical fallacy of appeal to authority, common for creationist types to use, because it is so similar to accepting the authority of their religion.

http://theautonomist.com/...p/permanent/fallacies.php#advere

It is also commonly used in advertising, where an "endorsement" is used to somehow validate the product being hawked.

Simply speaking, just because you have one voice saying something that doesn't make it true. You can quote anybody, and this applies.

What you need to show is that the comment is true to use it, ... and then, curiously, you don't need to appeal to the authority.

OK, Huntard, there may have been a better name for my original post. Pick one for me, if you please.

An easy target, and you got hit on it. You shouldn't blame Huntard when you literally asked for it.

What you have listed are a number of PRATTs, and that means you have not really investigated the matter beyond a cursory, comfort zone, beginning. You're journey of understanding, should you choose to undertake it, may take a long time: how fast you go depends on what baggage you are willing or unwilling to leave behind. I suggest first that you discard false beliefs or what you think is true about evolution in particular and science in general.

See Talk Origins PRATT list - An Index to Creationist Claims for a(n astonishing) number of such false concepts.

If you are willing to learn, there are a bunch of people here who can help you in your quest for truth.

If you want to adamantly declare your beliefs to be true, then I see no benefit to communication with a rock.

Enjoy.

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