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truthlover
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Message 17 of 25 (80570)
01-24-2004 10:57 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Chiroptera
01-24-2004 5:49 PM


All one needs are bone fide miracles, events that simply cannot be explained through natural laws (including the potential for human error).
Easier said than done. If all the stories I've heard from people are true, then it seems pretty conclusively proven to me that bona fide miracles have happened. However, how are you going to prove such a thing. A person said that a couple helped him with his car on the road, diagnosed his small daughter with appendicitis, and then directed him to a hospital. The couple turned out to be the founders of the hospital, long since dead.
However, the guy could have been lying. He could have been hallucinating. He could have been wrong in recognizing the couple as the ones who founded the hospital.
A doctor had a heart attack and wrecked his car. A truck driver found him on the deserted side road, saying he'd gotten a CB call from the doctor. However, the doctor had no CB and had sent no call. Did it really happen? We have only the doctor's word.
I prayed for my nephew's eyes in response to a letter from my sister. He had an infection that had taken all the sight from one eye and 50% from the other (so said her letter). When I prayed, I told the folks with me that I felt like something happened, but I couldn't get everything out when I prayed. It felt like something was undone. The next letter was only a week later. My nephew had only a small infection left, and all his eyesight had returned. The infection had been increasing for six months, and my sister's letter had seemed hopeless. Did my prayers have anything to do with the recovery? Obviously, I'm going to think so, but how can anyone prove it.
Bona fide miracles, even when they do happen (assuming they really did) are unlikely to lend themselves easily to proof, because they are not repeatable.

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truthlover
Member (Idle past 4090 days)
Posts: 1548
From: Selmer, TN
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Message 18 of 25 (80574)
01-24-2004 11:06 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by apostolos
01-24-2004 8:56 PM


Re: What I meant...
of the posts so far have, to some degree, expressed the type of answers I was looking for.
I don't think it's fair to say "to some degree." One poster, at least, said that since there's really no evidence for God, in that poster's opinion, he doesn't choose to believe in something with no evidence. That's a pretty direct answer.
Also, your original post begins with at least a slight misconception. Maybe most of the evolutionists on this site are unbelievers, but it's certainly not all. I, for example, am a believer in God and in his Son, Yeshua. Statistics say that about half of all scientists believe in God. Among non-scientists, more than half of evolutionists believe in God. (90% of Americans believe in God, and 47% believe in evolution, that means that even if all atheists believe in evolution, which is likely, then 37% of those 47% of evolution-believing Americans believe in God. That's almost 80%.)
Based on what I've seen in other threads, that's the most common answer you'll get from the atheistic/agnostic evolutionists. They see no evidence for the God of the Christians or any other God, so why believe? They see no evidence for the great pink unicorn who rules Pluto, and they don't believe in him, either. Those two beliefs seem the same to them. No evidence for or against, so you can choose to believe, but why would you?

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