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ringo Member (Idle past 665 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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marc9000 writes:
It's a non-sequitur. Is that too brief for you? "Children" riding in cars with their dads "hundreds of times" does not translate to the Vice President's son flying to foreign countries hundreds of times with his father."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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Can someone explain to me why anyone should care if Biden and son went on a plane trip?
I think this is supposed to be politically dangerous dirt that will implode the Biden administration leaving the Democrats to wallow in abject shame at the shear audacity of the revelation. It won't. I think the republicans and their Reich-wing apologists like marc9000 are out to destroy the office of the presidency regardless of what that does to the state of our society. What used to be the loyal opposition is no more. In republicans, loyalty has given way to stark hatred and the driving need to foster national failure on a grand world-wide scale. By causing the nation's failure the republicans hope to point to democrats as the cause. Why do republicans so hate this nation? Why does marc9000 so hate this nation?Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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jar Member (Idle past 92 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
The parallels between what is happening in the US today and what happened in Japan between the late 1920s and 1941 are striking. The result was a Japanese Fascist Theocracy similar to the current marriage between Fascism and the Christian Cult of Ignorance. It was a very deliberate campaign of destabilization of ANY democratic government with the goal of establishing a military/theocratic dictatorship.
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Percy Member Posts: 22941 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 7.1
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AZPaul3 writes: Can someone explain to me why anyone should care if Biden and son went on a plane trip? As Marc has explained, the nearly weekly international trips Hunter Biden made with his father while vice-president (we know they happened, someone at Fox said so) were highly suspicious since they represented opportunities for them to engage in nefarious plotting. They met this way, even though highly suspicious as well as very visible, because for some reason it would have been even more suspicious had they met just in the normal course of seeing each other frequently because they're father and son. That none of the nefarious plots have come to light only shows how successfully the mainstream media has covered them up. --Percy
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ringo Member (Idle past 665 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes:
If it's any consolation, we have a similar problem in Canada. In my opinion, the job of the opposition is to provide viable alternatives to the the government's policies - and if the government "steals" their ideas, that should be cause for celebration. But in the past, we've even had the Conservative Party refuse to reveal their policies except in an election campaign. What used to be the loyal opposition is no more. And all too often, what they call bad ideas when they're in opposition miraculously become good ideas when they're in office."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
Ahh, nefarious plotting. That's the one that gets them every time.
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Percy Member Posts: 22941 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 7.1 |
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marc9000 Member Posts: 1530 From: Ky U.S. Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
It's a non-sequitur. "Children" riding in cars with their dads "hundreds of times" does not translate to the Vice President's son flying to foreign countries hundreds of times with his father. Well, I admit, many dads have job responsibilities and other obligations that could prevent them from overindulging in taking their kids for car rides. They even have to pay for the gas! Not only do vice presidents have very few constitutional responsibilities, they don't even have to pay for fuel for Airforce two! The taxpayers do that! According to Secret Service records, the number of trips Hunter took with dad during his vice presidency was 411.
‘Breaking the News’ Reveals: Secret Service Records Show Hunter Biden Took at Least 23 flights Through Joint Base Andrews, Home of Air Force One and Two | Judicial Watch
Please read down the link to see the 411 number. also;
quote: Admittedly, none of the pics in the following link seem to show Hunter anywhere. He musta ducked out of the way just in time! Page Not Found?
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marc9000 Member Posts: 1530 From: Ky U.S. Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Can someone explain to me why anyone should care if Biden and son went on a plane trip? It has to do with corruption and national security questions, Hunter's ties to politics and a foreign energy company. Trump's children never got near suspicions like that, yet were targeted by the media for just about any activity they got involved in, including showing pictures of their children. I don't see any issues with national security there.
quote: Ivanka Trump: using kids as political props on social media? Intense backlash? For self-promotion? What a crime! Video: Melania Trump Blasts Media for Attacks on Son Barron—'Children Should be Off Limits'
quote: And with ABC World News Tonight, the shoes don't repair the lies too often.
quote: I wonder what kind of put-downs like this could be done against Jill Biden. We'll never know, conservative commentary and media isn't that scummy. Need some examples of the attacks on Eric and Donald jr. over the past 6 years? Sorry, not wasting any more of my time on that. But it's a fact that they've never been crackheads like Hunter Biden.
I think the republicans and their Reich-wing apologists like marc9000 are out to destroy the office of the presidency regardless of what that does to the state of our society. "Destroy the office of the presidency"? After what Trump went through, Pelosi tearing up the state of the union speech, trivial impeachments, Maxine Waters and others incitements of violence, Trump's national network addresses being chopped off long before they were finished - and I am the one out to "destroy"?
What used to be the loyal opposition is no more. In republicans, loyalty has given way to stark hatred and the driving need to foster national failure on a grand world-wide scale. By causing the nation's failure the republicans hope to point to democrats as the cause. Why do republicans so hate this nation? Why does marc9000 so hate this nation? After the third-world style of hatred towards Trump, his family, and his supporters , I'd expect the left to drop this kind of talking point. But that's okay, it gets conservative media and commentary more and more popularity, as they marvel over the intelligence of the left. Here's a reminder of one of my responses to you last may, that you never addressed.
Message 24 quote: So I have evidence that today's left hates U.S. foundings / founders, and traditional history. As I pointed out to you once before here somewhere, James Madison, the most prominent founder, said this;
quote: Quote by James Madison: “I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that art...” Let's see, "benevolence" / "human infrastructure"...."benevolence" / "human infrastructure"- the two terms seem very similar to me. Let's look at the definitions;
quote: Benevolence Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com
quote: human infrastructure | Meaning & Origin | Dictionary.com "Benevolence toward one's fellow creatures"? - "healthcare, childcare, education, job training"? Yes, very similar. The above is my evidence that you and all your helpers here hate the U.S. far more than I do. Any counter evidence? Or just rage?
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marc9000 Member Posts: 1530 From: Ky U.S. Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
As Marc has explained, the nearly weekly international trips Hunter Biden made with his father while vice-president (we know they happened, someone at Fox said so) Fox got that information from "Judicial Watch", which obtained the Secret Service records. (linked above) Before you poison the wells, can you come up with a liberal source that proves that claim false? I did a quick check at the left-leaning Snopes, and couldn't find a reference to it. I'd expect them to be all over it if that claim were false.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17914 Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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quote: It says that the Secret Service reported a total of 411 trips. It does not say how many were with his father at all. The majority of them were domestic trips, not to foreign countries (note that the list includes trips within foreign countries, too) and they certainly weren’t all flights. The article says that there were 23 flights from Joint Base Andrews, but it doesn’t mention that only 2 were to foreign countries. It also says that he visited 29 countries. As Vice President Joe Biden visited 57 (National Geographic). So it’s really not looking like Hunter Biden “flew on air force 2 with his dad hundreds of times to foreign countries” (Message 161). The list doesn’t even include hundreds of flights to foreign countries (more like 60, including trips from one foreign country to another, and assuming all such trips were flights). And we can certainly rule out 400 trips on Air Force 2.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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PaulK to marc9000 So it’s really not looking like Hunter Biden “flew on air force 2 with his dad hundreds of times to foreign countries” (Message 161). The list doesn’t even include hundreds of flights to foreign countries (more like 60, including trips from one foreign country to another, and assuming all such trips were flights). And we can certainly rule out 400 trips on Air Force 2. So marc9000 lied to us with all this Hunter bull crap.
marc 9000 to AZPaul3 The above is my evidence that you and all your helpers here hate the U.S. far more than I do. Any counter evidence? Or just rage? You're an American-hating liar. My only reaction to you is disgust. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given. Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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jar Member (Idle past 92 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I really can't feel disgust when it comes to Marc9000 or so many other Americans; rather I feel pity and and concern since it seems they are simply incapable of any connection with honesty, reality, reasoning, discernment, discrimination or even basic reading comprehension.
Is it possible we are seeing some subtle effects similar to the lead poisoning resulting from Ethyl Gasoline exhaust, some universal result of exposure to yet another yet undetermined environmental pollution? Edited by jar, : pluralization My Website: My Website
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Percy Member Posts: 22941 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 7.1
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I was going to provide the correct information but had to run some errands and now you've already done that. I'll just add a couple things.
While it's always nice to have misinformation corrected, some people specialize in providing misinformation, so much of it that correcting it can turn into a full time job. There's an infinity of misinformation websites out there for them to draw upon, and there's no way to keep up with it. When somebody's proven over and over that that misinformation is their primary contribution, just ignoring them might be considered. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22941 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 7.1 |
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