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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0
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We are negotiating again in Colorado for our next contract.
King Soopers, Union Remain a Long Way Apart on New Labor Deal and so far the process is deadlocked. I have attended most of the meetings and am watching the process play out. We are advocating fair and balanced proposals for all of the employees...not just the senior ones. Our proposals seem reasonable, and given that the corporations got their major tax cut from Trump, one would think that they could help take care of the rest of us. Stay tuned.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 763 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
“one would think” -
Yeah, if one were a good wishful thinker, maybe.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Some of them should have been mandated by government decades ago. Our proposals seem reasonable...And our geese will blot out the sun.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
, and given that the corporations got their major tax cut from Trump, one would think that they could help take care of the rest of us.
why would they do that?It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
I posted a message to our local's Facebook page to better explain the negotiating process to everyone.
quote:Grocery workers contract dispute Edited by Phat, : No reason given.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile |
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0
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Im as involved as a store steward can be. Here is the latest from Colorado.
So basically we have two chains of grocers in Colorado who are under UFCW Local 7. There are two separate contracts---one for Safeway and one for the larger chain, King Soopers. They are sister contracts in that they have basically the same language yet with a few exceptions. Kings has 12000 employees, most of them newer....(hired after 2005). We have far less...due to the fact that Safeway (now Safeway/Albertsons after the merger a few years ago) closed 35 stores and consolidated into fewer stronger stores. They canceled their contract extension and King Soopers employees are voting Thur and Fri (today) to see how many want to accept the contract proposal and how many want to strike. Safeway still has a contract extension and no new negotiations scheduled yet. We are waiting to see the outcome of this vote from rival (yet union brother) chain. Stay tuned...I'm in the thick of information regarding this. I am earning my stripes as a steward. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
The larger rival chain (King Soopers) had a vote and the vote to reject the contract offer that I showed here a few posts back and authorize a strike was an overwhelming 92%. My grocery store (Safeway) is still under a contract extension. We likely will get hit by a flood of business....perhaps overwhelmed. Now, I'm not sure what will happen and I have some more questions directed towards the union higher-ups. I told my store director the same thing that I told my co-workers. I believe that my store is unified should we need to be.
Not sure what happens next. Stay tuned.
King Soopers grocery workers vote to authorize strike Edited by Phat, : No reason given.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Good point. I had to do some digging.
Labor Unions: Liberal vs Conservative- WorthingtonChance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
The King Soopers Contract was finally settled. The same 92% membership that voted to strike an earlier offer accepted the last offer cleanly and intentionally. Here is a letter from a member who attended the negotiatons:
quote: Now on to Safeway. Stay tuned. Edited by Phat, : spellcheckChance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
It is Sunday, April 7th. Negotiations are resuming for the 3rd day between the corporate negotiating team from Safeway/Albertsons and the Local 7 Labor Union.
The meeting starts at 1030 am. I plan on attending as a member and observer. The process is fascinating to watch. After attending the meeting for perhaps 3 hours, I plan on then going to work, as I am scheduled 330-midnite at my store. As the shop steward, it is my responsibility to convey information to the members employed at my store. Much as been discussed and put on paper. At this time, I cannot publically reveal the details, though I can say that we are now down to the brass tacks. Wages, Health Care, Seniority, and Pension. Our rival grocer (and sister contract in labor-speak) has settled. The vote is expected to be fully ratified before any news is released to the public. One strategy that I have seen involves private deals made between store management and certain employees. Total unity is, of course, preferable from the democratic point of view, but total freedom to choose individually and manage yourself without interference from "a liberal agenda" is the conservative comeback. One thing is for certain. I have done my homework and am more prepared to articulate key talking points to my members and to management as well. Being a shop steward can be grueling. I am not a Boss. Many biblical precepts are internalized by me as I deal with management.
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Sunday was a good day for learning! Our meetings went smoothly and there was consensus and progress. At the end of the meeting, we had this:
So the next step will be a vote from all participating members. While we all have varied opinions regarding which way to vote, we are allowing the members to hear all sides of the discussion and how the consensus was arrived at. Stay tuned. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Some of them should have been mandated by the government decades ago. Specifically which ones?Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
"Make the Company Keep Your Workplace Safe," jumps out.
And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Percy Member Posts: 22503 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Denver based King Sooopers supermarkets, following the lead of Walmart and Kroger, has asked its customers to leave their guns home. Hopefully this outburst of sanity will continue to spread.
Unfortunately Soopers buys into a couple of widely held but completely unsupported theories: a) Only crazy people commit murder; and b) It is possible to detect crazy people before they shoot. --Percy
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