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Message 132 of 198 (833398)
05-20-2018 5:29 PM
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05-20-2018 5:27 PM


Re: Cut the ad hominems.
Ah yes of course, couldn't be that you've bought the revisionist propaganda, it must be that everything I've read on the subject is a lie. But of course, what else could it be if I'm the one posting it.

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Message 134 of 198 (833406)
05-20-2018 6:38 PM
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05-20-2018 5:41 PM


Re: Cut the ad hominems.
I couldn't care less any more if doltish fatheaded Liberal Nazis haven't the fairness or the intelligence to take me seriously. And all based on the spurious fallacious ad hominem or argument from authority. I do care that such a mental deficiency is running things these days though. Right into the ground since there doesn't seem to be any stopping it.
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Message 137 of 198 (833414)
05-20-2018 7:09 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by Capt Stormfield
05-20-2018 7:00 PM


Re: Cut the ad hominems.
Liberal Nazis just can't think. The Bible shows God's judgments in the past of seriously lawbreaking nations (human sacrifice, sacrifice of infants to demon gods, homosexual acts as worship...). That's history. There is nothing in the Bible that tells US to do anything but be good to our neighbors, while the Koran tells its readers to kill Christians and Jews.
Oh right if you kill some infidels, and you are a man, you get to have a carnally thrilling eternity served by beautiful young women. That alone should te;; you what a total absolute crock Islam is and what a weirdly devilish mind Mohammed had.
I need to cite the Pope's inquisition and the fact that it hasn't been rescinded? It still goes on in dungeons out of sight.
Yes it is a horror where salvation depends on being good because nobody can be good enough to escape eternal punishmentun der the absolutely perfect Moral Law. That's why Jesus had to die for us. All other religions condemn people to hell by pretending they can be good enough to avoid it. Although at least Hinduism says if you've got bad karma you could come back as an animal.
The Moral Law is the Operating System of the universe, controlling everything that happens. It can't be changed, it's perfection itself. But since we aren't it condemns us, and that's what Jesus died to save us from.
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Message 140 of 198 (833417)
05-20-2018 7:46 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by Modulous
05-20-2018 7:39 PM


Re: Cut the ad hominems.
No, the Koran talks out of both sides of its mouth as it were. There are the nice passages and then there are the murderous passages. You left out the commands to kill Jews and Christians wherever you find them, with no provocation at all. And Mohammed himself killed a whole community of Jews simply because they refused to convert to Islam. You are whitewashing that evil ideology.
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Message 142 of 198 (833419)
05-20-2018 8:08 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by Faith
05-20-2018 7:46 PM


It's in the hadiths, not the Koran, sorry
OK I forgot it's in the HADITHS, not the Koran.
The Prophet of Allah has promised us that the Jews will gather in Palestine, and that the Muslims will fight them, and totally kill them. Even the stone and the tree will say: "Oh Muslims, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him."
I'll have to find a better source and also the quote about Christians. It's hard to find these things because of the Liberal Nazis at Google and the tireless efforts of Muslims to whitewash their religion online.
And I'm having that problem again of not being able to post because of being directed to the log-in page and the "delete cookies" isn't working.

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Faith 
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Message 144 of 198 (833421)
05-20-2018 8:10 PM
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05-20-2018 8:05 PM


Re: Cut the ad hominems.
Right, it's the same thing as Old Testament history of God's judgments for specific offenses if Muslims kill people indiscriminately today. Liberal Nazi insanity reigns.
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Message 152 of 198 (833433)
05-21-2018 3:15 AM
Reply to: Message 148 by jar
05-20-2018 8:32 PM


Re: It's in the hadiths, not the Koran, sorry
There is no such thing as Christian genocide. There was the anti-Christ Inquisition mostly against Christians though also Jews especially if Hitler's Jesuit-inspired Holocaust is taken into account, but there is no Christian genocide.

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Message 153 of 198 (833434)
05-21-2018 3:17 AM
Reply to: Message 150 by MiguelG
05-20-2018 10:17 PM


Re: Christianity, Science & 'Truth'
There will always be a religious inclination and it's going pagan. And the best of the Enlightenment came out of the Reformation.
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Faith 
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Message 154 of 198 (833435)
05-21-2018 3:19 AM
Reply to: Message 151 by MiguelG
05-20-2018 10:19 PM


The whole idea of the rights of the people derives from Christian principles. The Magna Carta was a Christian inspiration long before the Constitution. The very idea of liberty derives from the Bible.
There are lots of websites that present the Christian basis of the Constitution, such as THIS ONE I haven't found the best quotes yet.
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Message 159 of 198 (833454)
05-21-2018 10:17 AM
Reply to: Message 158 by JonF
05-21-2018 9:22 AM


Ah another victim of revisionist Liberal Nazi history.

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Message 160 of 198 (833455)
05-21-2018 10:18 AM
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05-21-2018 7:58 AM


Re: wrong again Faith
It was a start in the right direction and it was a Christian inspiration. Lots of quotes at the link I posted, HERE.
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Faith 
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Message 161 of 198 (833457)
05-21-2018 10:20 AM
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05-21-2018 7:47 AM


Re: It's in the hadiths, not the Koran, sorry
That is not genocide and I already agreed it was a bad idea the way it was done.
Only Roman Catholicism, which is a pagan idolatrous superstition, forced anyone to become a "Christian.".

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Message 164 of 198 (833460)
05-21-2018 10:24 AM
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05-21-2018 10:23 AM


Re: wrong again Faith
That is sheer idiotic ignorance, pure revisionist Liberal Nazism.

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Message 165 of 198 (833461)
05-21-2018 10:25 AM
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05-21-2018 10:24 AM


Re: It's in the hadiths, not the Koran, sorry
Idiot.

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Message 166 of 198 (833462)
05-21-2018 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 147 by Percy
05-20-2018 8:29 PM


Re: Cut the ad hominems.
You're accusing me of being a liar as usual. Some Admin.
You can't rebut the objection to the historical sciences because it is true that they cannot be tested and proved the way the hard sciences can. Rebut away, you're just blowing hot air.
You, like everybody else here, don't know what giving the benefit of the doubt even means. Once you know what an ideology teaches what benefit of the doubt can there be? It teaches what it teaches.
Just another Liberal Nazi. And here's an attempt at a definition of that: someone who accuses someone else of some kind of personal immorality instead of dealing with facts. All the Politically Correct smears. That's SOP at EvC. And especially someone who won't understand what this means.
I just wonder if it should be Liberal Nazi or Nazi Liberal or Leftist Nazi or Nazi Leftist. Decisions decisions.
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