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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2359 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Davidjay writes:
The lion doesn't select a random zebra; he selects a slow one. If a random mutation causes a zebra to run faster, it's automatically a "beneficial" mutation.
The explanation you gave is that, selection is not random....
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Davodjay writes:
Why not? Magic mutations wont make a zebra run faster... Explain in detail why genes can't determine the length of a zebra's legs. And then explain in detail why longer legs won't help a zebra run faster.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Davidjay writes:
You're the one who isn't answering his posts. If you can defend your belief system, do it. All you've done so far is declare victory without even getting in the game.
Evolutionists by their very basic principle of luck and chance can not and will not defend their scientific (religious) belief system.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Davidjay writes:
Then do it. In Message 31 I asked you to, "Explain in detail why genes can't determine the length of a zebra's legs. And then explain in detail why longer legs won't help a zebra run faster."
... I always try to answer questions to further the debate.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Davidjay writes:
That isn't the point. The topic is selection so we're talking about how leg length effects selection. Inbreeding of dogs, can produce longer legs in a new breed of dog, but it still remains a dog. If lions ate dogs, wouldn't they be more likely to eat the dogs that can't run as fast? Aren't they also more likely to eat the zebras that can't run as fast? So wouldn't the Great Danes be more likely to breed than the dachshunds? That's selection. The slow dogs (or zebras) are selected out by the lazy lions. The ones that are not selected by the lions go on to make newer, faster dogs (or zebras).
Davidjay writes:
And the lions eat it. In your own words, "ALMOST always". If a mutation happens or a misread happens, then it almost always dies. The very few exceptions, one in a million, may produce a faster zebra or a Greater Dane. If not, explain why.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Davidjay writes:
If you don't answer, the READERS will assume you don't know the answer.
Sorry Ringo, youre on my NO REPLY LIST. Email your fellow evolutionists your questions, and I shall answer if asked in sincerity and if it helps READERS understand the debate.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Davidjay writes:
What sets the limit? What barrier is there to prevent variation from going any farther?
Variability as in mankind, is limited to the superficial, as with leg length etc etc etc etc etc... and more etc.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Davidjay writes:
there's always something on the dice.
No matter how many times you shake your hands and throw the dice, when there is nothing on the dice, you never get a probability.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Davidjay writes:
You have more than forty TOPICS waiting for YOUR answers.
As per usual, evolutionists run when asked a question, because they know they cant answer it ?
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
CRR writes:
No. Does the theory of evolution require a gain of copious quantities of genetic information? Don't get caught up in the idea of "gaining" information. What happens in evolution is a change in information. The word "cat" and the word "bat" have different meanings but they contain the same amount of information. Selection just preserves the information that is best suited to survival.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Vlad writes:
Apparently not.
Being a dedicated evolutionist.... Vlad writes:
Neither of those is preposterous. They just turned out to be wrong.
In my eyes, the idea of NS is one of the most preposterous in the history of science — just like phlogiston and universal aether. Vlad writes:
Red flag.
Darwinian....
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Vlad writes:
That's like saying that going from New York to LA and then back to New York isn't travelling at all.
The thing is that the processes are quite reversible, and therefore they represent no evolution at all.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Vlad writes:
You seem to have evolved from a "dedicated evolutionist" to a full-blown denier pretty quickly.
Thereto, the theorists believe — or pretend to do — that microevolution is in sooth evolution.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Vlad writes:
Are you prepared to respond to any of the criticism of your posts?
Still I am prepared to go on with as much amusing cases.
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