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Author | Topic: Should countries outlaw the hijab, niqab and burka? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
NoNukes Inactive Member |
I see hijabs on women wearing anything from floor-length dresses to jeans. They don't all seem to be that "oppressed".) That's my experience as well. I find the idea of outlawing the hijab in particular, fairly misguided. In fact, the idea that you can fight oppression by dictating to people what they can and cannot wear is fairly bizarre. But that's par for these threads. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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Let's imagine the following scenario. I decide to exploit the women at the place of business I own by requiring women to wear short skirts and prohibiting the wearing of bulky, shape hiding outer garments as tops. Some smart guy decides to fix this problem by outlawing the wearing of short skirts and ordinary dress blouses and requiring all women to wear bulky sweaters. Smart guy then posts his solution as the subject of a thread on EvC.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
... I decided to become gender-ambiguous instead I prefer the ambiguity, so I am going to pretend that I did not read this explanation. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Changing it through legal channels is NOT the same thing as claiming its protection while conspiring to bring down a nation by growing your population to the point that you can force others to Sharia law. Describe the protection you believe that the constitution provides against such a thing happening. I think the belief that Sharia law could be introduced in such a way is pretty fanatical, but if you claim that such a procedure is unconstitutional, exactly what section of the constitution do you think would be violated? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I think it's mostly a matter of understanding how the language of protected freedoms was understood in its day and something of the history of PC over the last half century. You seemed to be claiming that the constitution does not allow the strategy of 'growing your numbers'until you get your way. Your statement does not come close to defending such a claim.
Faith writes: Nobody here seems to have a clue about PC. Tanypteryx thinks it refers to being polite about differences or some such. No, it's a concerted propaganda program that took off in the sixties through the Cultural Marxists who had escaped Nazi Germany to come and teach in American Universities a few decades earlier Just thought this was worth a repeat. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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I didn't intend such an implication. I thought it was common sense. Telling me that your position is common sense, or to think harder, or calling the opposing position Marxist neither helps me understand where you are coming from nor persuades me that you are right. Since your position is based on the constitution, I would think that you ought to be able to at least point to some part of the document in support of your position. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I don't know what you think I said that this doesn't answer. I asked you to specify a portion of the constitution that prevents groups from growing until they are able to enact laws that the current majority does not like. Instead of actually citing some provision I just get more of your opinion. What I am asking you to do is to back up your opinion with some actual cites to the constitution.
Catholicism and Islam are subversive religions that seek to take over the world. Not going there. As a side issue, I don't see that people who want to wear hijabs in this country are subversive or how their doing so is on a path to dominating Christianity, but I know better than to pursue that with you. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
This was an interesting recent development. Quebec judge wouldn't hear case of woman wearing hijab Here is a sample of the commentary regarding that video.
quote: Sad. Just plain disgusting. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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