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Hate Crimes? Thought Crimes? Crimethink?

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ringo
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Message 22 of 131 (763291)
07-23-2015 12:11 PM 		Reply to: Message 9 by Jon
07-23-2015 7:53 AM

Jon writes:
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So your society disapproves more of the murder of a black man by a racist than the murder of a white man by the same racist?
Our society disapproves more of a murder committed because of racism. Or hate in general.
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The math isn't simple but it's clear: hate has zero value as a crime but it adds to the value of a crime.
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07-24-2015 11:57 AM 		Reply to: Message 25 by Jon
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Is 'hate crime' a slippery slope to 'hate speech' to simply 'crimethink'?
Every slope is slippery, even if the slope is zero. The question is whether or not the coefficient of friction makes the situation dangerous.
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What makes you think it does in this case?
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01-07-2016 11:15 AM 		Reply to: Message 122 by Blue Jay
01-07-2016 10:52 AM

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... my faith in lines-in-the-sand has recently been shaken.
A line in the sand is inherently tenuous - as opposed, for example, to "carved in stone". Lines in the sand are not something to put your faith in.
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01-07-2016 11:34 AM 		Reply to: Message 126 by Blue Jay
01-07-2016 11:26 AM

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Stop picking on my metaphor, you bully! What did he ever do to you?
It slid down the slippery slope of a sand dune.
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