Oh No, The New Awesome Primary Thread

Democratic superdelegates. I concur. As a supposed beacon of "democracy" and "free elections" to the rest of the world, the US is, in actuality, a banana republic joke.

My ears are ringing. I suppose at that time, you will give my last post "Message 76 (776853)" in the thread "Presidential Candidates" a reply? (Seems a lot of my non-supporters in that thread scampered silently away.)By the way, you can add another point to my list: it appears when Hillary was Secretary of State, she sought and received advice from another war criminal, . . . Henry Kissinger. The youngsters don't know that name, . . . but I know you do.

"cut of your NOSE ....?" Gee, I am uncertain about the last part.Maybe this Saudi woman from catastrophic human-rights-violating-nation whom Hillary enthusiastically accepts "contributions" can assist you. She seems to be 'distracted' at the moment, but I think the beginning goes something like . . . "cut off your HEAD . . ."I guess this photo is kinda funny because she is a dark-skinned foreigner. Afterall, amerikan voters don't consider them to be people, . . . right Theo?

Wow Theo. Where do I even begin? Your on-going posts praising Hillary, how disappointing, on many levels. Yeah, I know the quote. I used your incomplete quote to segue into my response. I protest ALL war criminals/mass murderers. For which forum participants throw crap at me for my temerity and indignation, and not at the actual war criminals/mass murderers. Although no Republican candidate is a war criminal like Hillary, nor has any candidate murdered a million innocent Iraqi civilians like Hillary, the absolutely ONLY thing I liked on the republican side was Rand Paul advising for a smallER amerikan defense department/budget, fewer world-wide amerikan bases.Otherwise, all the rest are hopeful horrific social and foreign policies. So no, I shan't support a republican. A puerile phrase. But yes, I do have the right not to vote. Or I can easily vote for a third party like the Green Party whose ethics actually match mine. A radical thought, eh?This way I can sleep at night, knowing that my actions did not cause harm to other people in this world. However, I guess sleeping must be easy for some sociopathic voters whose support for war criminals/human-rights-violating dictators cause loud screams across the world: "My baby was just murdered by an amerikan drone attack!" Or "Sister, help me!, this phosphorus weapon made in the USA is burning down to my bone!" Or "Doctor, did my deformed baby, conceived among amerikan depleted uranium weaponry, suffer much before she died!!!?" Or "My god!, the amerikan planes just bombed the hospital, again!" Or "Please, PLEASE!, I don't want to be waterboarded again!"Yeah, I choose not to play with THAT game ball. But I can imagine how much fun the game is for sociopaths. You're right. Indignation alone, withOUT facts/evidence, is not constructive against a willfully marble-headed individual. As a matter of fact, Indignation, even WITH facts/evidence, is not constructive against a willfully marble-headed individual.I posted a huge list of facts and evidence in the thread "Presidential Candidates." Then, you and everybody else, promptly ran away. So it greatly appears that my evidence that supports Hillary being a war-criminal and mass-murderer is incontestable. Check. *Chuckle*Except for the crucial difference, . . . I provided apparently incontestable facts/evidence. Funny how you missed this part. (Kinda important difference Theo.) From many posts, I made it absolutely clear, that Hillary and former REPUBLICAN Bush Jr., former REPUBLICAN Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, and all REPUBLICAN presidents since WWII are captaining the exact SAME ship. By voting for the EXACT same mindset that brought us the illegal and immoral Iraqi war, how will that get the ship to turn?Not a rhetoric question. Be specific. *Blinks*Wow Theo, this is just shocking and willfully ignorant drivel. Especially from you, you're one of the more knowledgeable people on the forum. Please check your medication dosage.Is there any actual evidence of this instrument of goodness? Or just childish talking points?I gave a boatload, HMS Queen Mary class, of evidence, showing Hillary is a war criminal/ mass murderer. Now your turn. As Secretary of State for FOUR years, what good did Hillary accomplish for the people around the world?Be specific.To help get you started, I'll start you off with examples from these nations:1. Iraq. Only a few other Democrats were criminal and sociopathic enough to ENTHUSIASTICALLY support Bush Jr in his illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq. A million innocent deaths? (The secular regime overthrown by [Hillary supported] U.S. forces was replaced by Islamist fundamentalists, and the ensuing sectarian civil war has produced horrific cases of sexual violence including not least the enslavement of women by extremist groups like the Islamic State.) Zcomm » On Hillary Clinton, Sexism, and U.S. Foreign Policy2. Lebanon (Clinton also backed Israel’s massive 2006 assault on Lebanon, as well as the 2009 and 2014 wars on the Gaza Strip, which killed many hundreds of female non-combatants.) Zcomm » On Hillary Clinton, Sexism, and U.S. Foreign Policy3. Honduras ({Hillary} supported the coup in Honduras, which resulted in a dramatic upsurge in violence against women, with prominent female peasant leaders, union organizers, and indigenous rights advocates among the victims) Zcomm » On Hillary Clinton, Sexism, and U.S. Foreign Policy4. Saudi Arabia (She’s called for closer strategic ties with Saudi Arabia, the most misogynist government on the planet.) Zcomm » On Hillary Clinton, Sexism, and U.S. Foreign Policy I ask again, while Hillary takes bribes/donations from Saudi Arabia for military weaponry, how many woman have been falsely executed by beheading?5. Bahrain. (She supported Bahrain’s brutal crackdown on its pro-democracy movement, including prominent women leaders.) Zcomm » On Hillary Clinton, Sexism, and U.S. Foreign Policy6. Yeman. (Yemeni human rights activist Tawakkol Karman, who was awarded the 2011 Nobel Peace Prize for her leadership in the country’s pro-democracy movement, has spoken out against then-Secretary Clinton’s lack of support in the struggle against the U.S.-backed autocratic regime of Ali Abdullah Saleh) Zcomm » On Hillary Clinton, Sexism, and U.S. Foreign Policy7. Morocco. (A particularly egregious case of Hillary Clinton’s selective support for the rights of women is her strong support for the autocratic monarchy in Morocco. For example, in 2012 during the height of a local campaign to repeal an article of the Moroccan penal code that absolves a male rapist if he consents to marry his victim Clinton praised the Moroccan government for having protected and expanded women’s rights. Just weeks after Clinton commended the regime, Amina Filali a 16-year old Moroccan girl who’d been raped at the age of 15 and forced to marry her rapist, who subsequently battered and abused her burned herself to death.) Zcomm » On Hillary Clinton, Sexism, and U.S. Foreign Policy8. Afghanistan. Yeah, life for EVERYbody in Afghanistan improved dramatically under Secretary of State Clinton. 9. Libya. Supported the defeat of Gadaffi, chaos and spreading terrorism ruled afterwards10. Syria. Supports the defeat of Bashar al-Assad, with the likely result of chaos and spreading terrorism ruled afterwards (See Libya above)11. Gaza/Palestine. Hillary actually defended Israel murdering the peace flotilla from Turkey.12. United States military personal with ultra high suicide rates and Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.

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Hillary's support for the Iraq war, her support for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and numerous Arab dictators, her poor record on human rights, and her indifference to international humanitarian law . . . Zcomm » On Hillary Clinton, Sexism, and U.S. Foreign Policy

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. . . Seems to contrast with your ill-advised words . . . Edited by dronestar, : Paul Rand > Rand Paul

Wow.1. "Marble-headed" is a pretty mild ad-hominem attack. For some, it's nearly a term of endearment. Heck, compared to the crap I sometimes get on this forum, I might even consider being called "marble-headed" a compliment.2. I didn't actually, specifically, call YOU "marble-headed." (I suspect guilty conscience is at work here.) I made two statements: 3. And lastly, . . . Really Theo? I'm showing evidence of MASS-MURDER, a MILLION innocent Iraqi civilian deaths, gross human right violations, sexual violence precipitated and supported by Hillary's actions. Amazingly, all these horrific crimes don't upset you the least, as you are more than happy to spend your time and money supporting Hillary. But what sets off your suddenly ultra-sensitive indignation is the term: "marble-headed."Really?4. Theo writes: This is exactly how forum participants will view your post. Instead of debating, you feigned an upset tummy, then ran away.I'm disappointed. Not a typical Theo post.

Thanks RAZD. I knew about the message codes, but was too lazy to look them up. I did not know about the thread code. That would have been useful. Cool, thanks for learn'n me. That's not why we started our debate. You wrote that you would be HAPPY to have Hillary win the primary: That's a far difference to what you are currently writing.

I'm guessing there's at least a million dead Iraqis who don't share your optimism in a Hillary\O'Malley ticket.I guess it is easy to wholly disregard Iraqi viewpoints because they are dark-skinned 'foreigners' whom apparently have no value. It seems to me this is exactly the type of criminal apathy which led to the ease of invading another country, ultimately precipitating the creation of ISIL, and then re-voting for the exact same mindsets.However, as a hopeful reminder, here is EXACTLY what a Hillary victory looks like to the Iraqis (multiply by about 100,000): Basing an ethical decision on, CONFIRMED ACTIONS of a war criminal/mass murderer (Hillary) and any of the UNEVIDENCED WORDS that Republican blowhard candidates use during a temporary competition to spout the most outrageous pus to attract the most hateful of voters, seems to be a fool's errand.Under these conditions, choosing the lesser of evil guarantees, in the end, that the winner is surely evil.To repeat, I believe ALL war criminals/mass murderers should be tried under international law, and definitely not be elected to office.

__________________________________________________ hypocrisy
n. pl. hypocrisies
1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.

Yes, . . . to participate in this forum's thread. Perhaps you would like to join me . . . We are encouraged to support our positions on this forum via evidence. So, while Hillary was Secretary of State, was there any actual evidence of her being an instrument of goodness?I repeatedly gave apparently incontestable evidence showing Hillary is a war criminal/ mass murderer. Now your turn. As Secretary of State for FOUR years, what good did Hillary accomplish for the people around the world?Be specific.To help get you started, I'll start you off with examples from these nations:1. Iraq. Only a few other Democrats were criminal and sociopathic enough to ENTHUSIASTICALLY support Bush Jr in his illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq. A million innocent Iraqi deaths. 4500 american military deaths. Creation of ISIL. (The secular regime overthrown by [Hillary supported] U.S. forces was replaced by Islamist fundamentalists, and the ensuing sectarian civil war has produced horrific cases of sexual violence including not least the enslavement of women by extremist groups like the Islamic State.) Zcomm » Page not found

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2. Lebanon (Clinton also backed Israel’s massive 2006 assault on Lebanon, as well as the 2009 and 2014 wars on the Gaza Strip, which killed many hundreds of female non-combatants.) Zcomm » Page not found

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3. Honduras ({Hillary} supported the coup in Honduras, which resulted in a dramatic upsurge in violence against women, with prominent female peasant leaders, union organizers, and indigenous rights advocates among the victims) Your access to this site has been limited

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4. Saudi Arabia (She’s called for closer strategic ties with Saudi Arabia, the most misogynist government on the planet.) Your access to this site has been limited by the site owner I ask again, while Hillary takes bribes/donations from Saudi Arabia for military weaponry, how many woman have been falsely executed by beheading?

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5. Bahrain. (She supported Bahrain’s brutal crackdown on its pro-democracy movement, including prominent women leaders.) Your access to this site has been limited by the site owner

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6. Yeman. (Yemeni human rights activist Tawakkol Karman, who was awarded the 2011 Nobel Peace Prize for her leadership in the country’s pro-democracy movement, has spoken out against then-Secretary Clinton’s lack of support in the struggle against the U.S.-backed autocratic regime of Ali Abdullah Saleh) Your access to this site has been limited by the site owner

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7. Morocco. (A particularly egregious case of Hillary Clinton’s selective support for the rights of women is her strong support for the autocratic monarchy in Morocco. For example, in 2012 during the height of a local campaign to repeal an article of the Moroccan penal code that absolves a male rapist if he consents to marry his victim Clinton praised the Moroccan government for having protected and expanded women’s rights. Just weeks after Clinton commended the regime, Amina Filali a 16-year old Moroccan girl who’d been raped at the age of 15 and forced to marry her rapist, who subsequently battered and abused her burned herself to death.) Your access to this site has been limited by the site owner

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8. Afghanistan. Yeah, life for EVERYbody in Afghanistan improved dramatically under Secretary of State Clinton.

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9. Libya. Supported the defeat of Gadaffi, chaos and spreading terrorism ruled afterwards.

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10. Syria. Supports the defeat of Bashar al-Assad, with the likely result of chaos and spreading terrorism ruled afterwards (See Libya above)

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11. Israel/Gaza/Palestine. Hillary actually defended Israel murdering the peace flotilla from Turkey.

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12. Egypt. Supported/defended dictator Mubarek until he was on the verge of being deposed.

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13. United States military personal with ultra high suicide rates and Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.Your turn Theo.Be specific._____________________________________________________Two war criminals embrace . . . Edited by dronestar, : Added: Two war criminals embrace

Hi Anglagard, Thanks Anglagard. Hmmm, I LOVE Sander's domestic policies, but I think you are not aware of Bernie's hawkish side.I believe Rand Paul and Jill Stein (Green Party http://www.jill2016.com/) are the only candidates supporting to vastly shrink the american military and its hegemony ways. Same thing about Obama and his ties to Wall Street. I believe the rest of the world correctly sees Obama and Hillary as rightwing republicans. But for the corporate media's constant spin, we have people like Faith believng they are socialists.

Thanks Faith, but there's irony of you patting my back, I am putting down war-criminal Hillary for her ENTHUSIASTIC support of a criminal republican initiative which left a million dead innocent Iraqis and the spread of ISIL.

Hey RAZD,It's been several months since your last post, I was starting to get the DTs without my daily dose of RAZD.The negative ratings of Hillary and Trump are through the roof, as they should be. I had hoped Bernie would respond to the Green Party's invitation to join them. I would like a Stein/Sanders ticket.I would join you in Spain. Of all the countries I visited, none have the appetite for love, food, and life like the Spanish. Ever been to one of their festivals? I'd recommend The Fallas in Valencia.Valencia Las Fallas Festival | Fallas Events & Fireworks | St Joseph Festival

Well, I am in agreement with most of your words, good job RAZD. But I would like you to consider that while the DNC would prefer Hillary over Trump, they would still rather have Trump over Bernie.The Democrats may not be quite as bad as the Rebublicans, however, keep in mind Democrat policies ARE pro-corporatism/fascism and pro-military/hegemonic. "Portly-pantsuit-Hillary' IS a war-criminal and corporate-Wall-Street-whore who will CONTINUE to champion the rich 1%ers over the common 99%%ers. However, I believe Trump would still erratically champion for the rich, and Bernie would hurt the 1%ers.Thus, the DNC do NOT want Bernie.At this point, I am praying for one of two possible Hail Mary passes.1. Clinton's email crime causes her to be indicted. What she has done was worse than heroic whistle-blower Chelsea/Bradley Manning who was convicted.2. Bernie joins Jill Stein and the Green Party. The Independents vote them in. There is much rejoicing.