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Author Topic:   Entitlements - what's so bad about them?
nwr
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Message 10 of 138 (723706)
04-06-2014 12:32 PM


To oversimplify a little, there are two kinds of people:
1: There are the "zero sum game" people. I think they are sometimes called "conservatives". As they see it, if you give entitlements to someone, then there is less left for them. Out of kindness, they might support very limited entitlements for a short term to help only the severely needy. But they will always be critical of entitlements, because they worry that what is given to others implies less for them
2: There are the "rising tides lift all boats" people. I think they are sometimes called "liberals". As they see it, a reasonable program of entitlements makes for a better society, and everyone benefits from that.

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Message 19 of 138 (723733)
04-07-2014 8:26 AM
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04-07-2014 7:39 AM


RAZD, replying to Coyote writes:
So you're a #1, zero sum type.
Yes, he identified himself very clearly, but with enormous verbosity.

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Message 23 of 138 (723740)
04-07-2014 9:33 AM
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04-07-2014 8:43 AM


Yes, however I do have a quibble
I mostly agree with that.

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Message 29 of 138 (723748)
04-07-2014 12:24 PM
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04-07-2014 1:09 AM


There are also those who think someone else should support them. "You owes me!" is a good description for this type. The reasons for the "owes" are many and often meaningless.
No doubt there are many of those good for nothing lazy bums.
The chances are that those good for nothing lazy bums actually work a lot harder than you do. And the chances are that your own standard of living is very dependent on the work of those good for nothing lazy bums.
Here's my puzzle: You are an anthropologist, and a Randroid. But would a purely Randroid world even have anthropologists? Surely anthropologists (and mathematicians such as myself) are just lazy bums living of the fat of the land and the work of others.

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