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Author Topic:   Monotheism or Enotheism? What is more apt for Christian Religion?
NoNukes
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Message 12 of 72 (703416)
07-20-2013 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by jar
07-20-2013 2:41 PM


Too broad a brush?
Christianity is the schizoid family member that claims monotheism yet embraces the TRINITY and Jesus and a Fallen Angel that fights and opposes God.
I understand the point you are making here, and I don't want to dismiss that point.
But by attributing all of those traits to Christianity, you are literally making the same error Faith routinely makes here. Christians are people who embrace Jesus in one of the many forms embracing might take, but it isn't necessary to either embrace the Trinity or to accept Satan as literally real in order to be Christians. For example, I doubt you fit that mold.
In either event, I don't think worshiping multiple deities who are all in one closely related pantheon really counts as enotheism. I don't think that term applies to most Christians, including the ones who don't buy into the Trinity.
I also suspect that many modern followers of Judaism believe that those other gods described in the Bible are just superstitious claptrap. But back in the day, when those gods were thought to be real, perhaps henotheism was the right term as you say.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 15 of 72 (703421)
07-21-2013 12:42 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by jar
07-20-2013 5:37 PM


Re: Too broad a brush?
But I did not say that Christianity is henotheistic. I used the term schizoid.
And I took issue with your labeling of Christians as holding schizoid beliefs. Some Christians hold beliefs that might be characterized in that way, but many Christians completely dismiss both fallen angels and Trinity doctrine.
Which is why I pointed out "When it comes to Judaism you really need to specify the period and culture."
Yes, and I agreed with you. Not really sure what point you are making.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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NoNukes
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Message 16 of 72 (703422)
07-21-2013 12:47 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Phat
07-21-2013 12:31 AM


Re: Too broad a brush?
Why cant a monotheistic god have a Son?
Of course he could. But the controversy is about what you make of the son.
When you 1) worship the Son, and/or 2) claim that the Son was actually both the Father and a separate being who has always existed, are your claims to being monotheistic still credible?

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree; ‘That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven, not how the heaven goes.’ Galileo Galilei 1615.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass

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