My Beliefs- GDR

A wound healing is the creation of new cells too, right?

Just as A Song of Ice and Fire is evidence for the life, death(s) and resurrection(s) of Beric Dondarrion via the Lord of Light (the one true god).

You deserve some kind of cognitive dissonance award for this post.:abe:inb4 you say "what I actually meant was...."Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

It is and Stile described the more common atheist perspective. You have been here long enough to know that atheism does not mean "I believe there are no gods" but rather "I don't believe gods exist as they have been put forth". You're smart enough to know the difference.

*gnosticism relates to knowledge.*theism relates to belief. Belief is a subset of knowledge.Agnostic Atheist: You don't know whether or not there is a god, but you don't believe there is one. Most atheists take this position as it is the most intellectually honest since only a Sith deals in absolutes.Agnostic Theist: you don't know if there is a god, but you believe there is one.Gnostic Atheist: you know there is no god OR you actively believe there to be NO gods.Gnostic Theist: you know there is a god. Materialism is materialism and atheism is atheism. You should equate atheism with atheism (the non beleif of a deity). Matt Dillahunty of The Atheist Experience has this explanation down to a science, so check this link out:abe:
Also a common mistake with a lot of people is to think that agnosticism is a mid point between theism and atheism. It's not. Lastly, you are atheist towards all the other gods that have been presented (Zeus, Thor, Hades etc), I just go one further (credit to Carlin, obviously).Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

You're right, it's not. However, the definitions I've given are about as widely accepted as I think you'll find. Since atheists are as such by way of being freethinkers, you are unlikely to find any two that agree on everything. All it takes to be an atheist is answering no to the question of "do you believe in god". There is no doctrine of atheism, there is no book. There isn't anything binding atheists together. It just so happens that many of "us" do agree on a lot more topics.So it would do you well to find out what someone believes before assuming what they believe. So as long as you've been here debating this shit with atheists, you never bothered to find out what we actually believe? What would you think if I had some twisted notion on what christians believed? What if I ascribed Faiths beliefs onto yours? Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

It does in the beginning, too. And the middle.

You've been a member here for 8 years with over 3,000 posts and you still have the very basics wrong? Doesn't look like you are trying very hard or find out what the other side thinks or believes.But yes, finding out the beliefs of atheists is a trying task because "atheist" only describes one very minute aspect of "our" beliefs. Most all atheists only reach the atheist conclusion AFTER identifying as skeptics or freethinkers and are skeptics or freethinkers first and atheists only as a result. Skepticism is the worldview, atheism is the conclusion.

Not a single atheist on this site or in this thread has used a definition of atheist that says "there is no god". YOU, on the other hand, have.I ask again: how would you feel about us if we continued to accuse you of believing the flud actually happened or some other such nonsense even though you've made relatively clear your basic belief set? You'd think particularly low, eh? Each event (the resurrection and the existence of a god) have the same evidence: none, so each event is a non-starter. As soon as you provide evidence for either, "we atheists" will examine those events and determine if they are worthy of belief. As oni stated earlier: we start from Ignosticism and have no position until you provide a claim. When all you've got is hearsay and your sayso, we have no reason to believe or accept and continue on as if you were talking about some other unevidenced phenomena.It may not matter much, but you used to be one of the more respectable christians here. That respect is slowly dwindling away in my eyes.

As has been pointed out to GDR numerous times, that is not the definition he has been using. That is why I and others have had to correct him. There is a marked difference between "I believe there to be no gods" and "I don't believe there to be gods".Do try to keep up.Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

Often times "I don't know" is the best answer one can give. Feeding yourself empty platitudes and false hopes does no good if you only do so in the name of having a belief. Faith and belief are not virtues. Why does there have to be an alternate belief? You only see them as pot shots because they aren't standing up to legitimate scrutiny. You are being given a rather fair shake as far as christians on an internet forum spouting bullshit is concerned. A far more fair shake than I would give you. You just don't realize how good you have it.

That's your problem right there. Perhaps you should read something before calling other people fucking names.

Message 652Message 646You openly admit not being part of the discussion, yet you have the balls to call GDR a heretic? You're a crazy as loon and you have the balls to call anyone a heretic? You are a witch.:abe:
You do realize that you didn't even use the word heretic correctly, right? You do realize that YOUR beliefs are contrary to standard christian beliefs, right? Witch.Edited by hooah212002, : No reason given.

You're a heretic and your beliefs are not at all mainstream. Your beliefs are such a small subset of jesus freaks that they make you looney tunes. 9/10 christians would lump you in with muslims ready to blow up a plane. Your beliefs are the same type that cause abortion centers to get blown up.yet you have the balls to call GDR a heretic?name calling isn't nice, is it? Maybe next time you shouldn't use stabbing words unless you are fine with getting cut.

Point proven. Thanks. Now we return to our regularly sceduled programming.