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Faith 
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Message 64 of 101 (679994)
11-17-2012 2:20 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by roxrkool
11-16-2012 11:29 PM


Finding oil or minerals
Hi roxrkool:
When investors buy stock in Creation-based mining or oil companies because they are finding deposits, THEN you know Creationism has a leg to stand on scientifically. I don't use evolution theory in my day to day job, but it certainly is applicable. Specific fossils tell us where we are in a stratigraphic section as well as what depositional environment we're looking at. And these data are incorporated into our exploration models to help us delineate exploration targets. And it works. Predictability works.
Creationism does not work. It has no applicability. It can't find oil or mineral deposits; therefore, it is a bankrupt *science.*
This sort of thing is said all the time but it makes no sense to me. I assume that particular fossils could orient a person looking for minerals or oil by their position in the strata just as well from a creationist point of view as an evolutionist point of view. Likewise the other features of the area, which you call "depositional environment," would also figure in the recognition of the likelihood of such deposits and their location and be the same whichever interpretive system is being applied. The location is going to be the same in either case, the time factor is irrelevant.
Has any sort of OTHER "creationist" attempt to find oil or minerals even been tried or are you just speaking rhetorically? I can't imagine why it would be. The fossils are where they are and the strata are where they are in either interpretive system.
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Faith 
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Message 93 of 101 (680153)
11-18-2012 12:28 AM
Reply to: Message 70 by roxrkool
11-17-2012 11:24 AM


Re: Finding oil or minerals
Thanks for the answer. Also Dr. A.\
I'm not going to argue with you since you are sure the WHY factor is important and explained in the old earth model, and all I can do at the moment is doubt it, which isn't very helpful, and it's no doubt offensive and insulting as well, which just goes with the territory of this debate unfortunately, sorry about that.
But I did want to say that this idea that anything FORMED in the Flood misrepresents YEC thinking. Nobody claims corals, reefs, limestone, or ANYTHING "formed" in the Flood. All the Flood did was TRANSPORT stuff that was already formed, or in the case of rock transported the sediments that then solidified where they were deposited.
A tangent of course, just had to mention it.
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