The truth is there is a lot more going on than is readily available on the web... there is a lot you don't hear, and may not hear about until someone publishes a book or some articles and studies.
Pose yourself as an expert on anything you wish, as long as it is not an expert on me, okay?
I didn't hear of ID until around 2001. I discovered it from two different angles, one of which was preparations for a documentary. At that point I began reading literature, lots of literature. Most of it was offline. It was from many many other writers than Behe and Dembski and Wells.
I most often refer to those three as they are the leading published proponents of organized ID theory. If you want to debate that, you provide refs which suggest otherwise. But you know and I know that these guys were the lead authors for the ID movement. The reason was that Dembski was a professional mathematician and Behe a biologist, who were working on and closest to a positive theory or methodology rather than just critiques... which have been going on forever.
This gave them credibility and the proposed "theory" an apparent weight beyond mere assertion. Others have been riding on their coattails with greater emphasis on design in physics and astronomy. Unfortunately none of those are as concrete or as important if one wants to challenge and replace evolutionary theory.
they are not the whole of the intellectual and scientific movement, as you will see in the coming years.
Its true, they are not. However they are the ones which spearheaded this revival and was one of the better shots creos had.
...IDers and creationists are very suspicious, and rightly so, of publishing in evo journals (I think peer-review when it comes to evolution is total crap),...
How will I see anything in coming years if THIS is the prevailing attitude of IDers and Creos? You know I've never known an actual scientist who was "suspicious" of publishers to the point that they didn't actually try and submit something if they felt it had merit.
Pasteur was against the establishment and he was oppressed, but he managed to keep working and develop bodies of evidence that were incontrovertible. Why is this a problem for creos and IDers?
holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)