jar writes:
If they are honest, that is simply not an issue. The masochist likes to be treated in a way that brings him pleasure, so he would treat another in whatever way pleases the other person.
Not necessarily. By definition, we would think that masochists like being treated as such to bring them pleasure, but I don't know if that is the case.
The issue of masochism is always brought up when the Golden Rule comes up for discussion as though it were some major flaw or conflict.
I didn't bring it up to say it's some kind of major flaw with the GR. The GR is great and it deserves recognition, but it doesn't always apply. I think it is human intuition of what goodness is that gives it validity.
For example, if we were to live in feudal japan a few hundred years ago. The samurais treated and wanted to treat the peasants like crap and the peasants felt the samurais should treat and want to treat the peasants like crap.
Take my mom, for another example. My dad thinks women are inferior and that a woman president would make the presidency into a joke. He also not respect my mom at all and sometimes openly say she's a stupid woman. My mom thinks women are inferior to men and that a woman president would make the presidency into a joke. She, being a good christian wife, actually takes all that crap from my dad and tells me that she's "just a woman".
The golden rule is great, but perhaps it isn't really justified?
George Absolutely Stupid Bush the
Younger