Hyperbole in the Bible

This is because non-fiction is (by definition) based on reality.
If you claimed that someone "jumped higher than a house" in non-fiction then it would be hyperbole - because it is impossible.
If you claimed that someone "jumped higher than a house" using a trampoline then it becomes difficult to know if it is hyperbole - as it could be possible.
If you claimed that someone "jumped higher than a house" in 1% gravity then it is not hyperbole - as it is easily possible. The way you judge if something is hyperbole is by comparing it to reality and seeing if it matches.
But this becomes very difficult in fictional works, as it is already established that reality is not being closely followed.Was Superman "able to leap tall buildings in a single bound" or was he simply able to jump higher than any normal man?

Maybe it would become clear if you describe how you identify if a statement is hyperbole?
From reading your opening post, it seems like you are taking the IDist's stance of "I'll know it when I see it."You appear to be saying that you can compare myths/fiction to reality and automatically know which bits can be identified as hyperbole because they don't match reality.
But the very definition of 'fiction' involves aspects of it not matching reality (and which are not hyperbole).So: how are you differentiating between 'myth' and 'hyperbole'?Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

This still does not actually describe how you identify hyperbole, but maybe if we can work through an example it will become clearer. Considering how few suggestions of hyperbole you have shared, there is not much to choose from. May I suggest another?

quote:

---

Genesis 7:19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

---

Is this hyperbole?Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

How would you identify hyperbole in the bible?
How would you differentiate 'hyperbole' from 'extraordinary truth'?Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

This rather goes against what I thought was the accepted understanding of the flood.
If not all hills were covered then many people/animals could have survived on the uncovered hills.
(I would suggest that it would have been a better idea for god to have told noah to build a wooden building on one of those hills rather than an ark.)So, how do we decide between your claim of hyperbole and other people's claim of accuracy?
What are you using to decide the Genesis quote is hyperbole, when others simply see a statement of fact?Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

So, how do we decide between your claim of hyperbole and other people's claim of accuracy?
What are you using to decide the Genesis quote is hyperbole, when others simply see a statement of fact?

No, you have not answered this.
You can tell that you have not answered this by the number of people in this thread asking you to describe how you are deciding if things are hyperbole or not. You are claiming that the verse is not fact, but when asked to explain your claim, you say "Prove it is fact!".
If your intention in this thread was to say "The following bible phrases are hyperbole. Prove me wrong!" then I think you are shifting the burden of proof to the wrong people. But you are the one who is meant to present a position.
And since you are reluctant to do so, I am finding it difficult to debate that position with you.Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

How?And do you think that "I'll just know" is a 100% reliable method of identifying hyperbole?Edited by Panda, : No reason given.Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

Ok - Let's looks at the first one you provided:

quote:

---

2 Kings 18:5 - Hezekiah trusted in the LORD, the God of Israel. There was no one like him among all the kings of Judah, either before him or after him.

​

2 Kings 23:25 - Neither before nor after Josiah was there a king like him who turned to the LORD as he did--with all his heart and with all his soul and with all his strength, in accordance with all the Law of Moses.

---

Your claim:The fact that people use similar exaggerations does not mean that these verses are exaggerations. Your argument is: the bible contains hyperbole and the bible shouldn't contain contradictions therefore any contradictions are probably hyperbole.
But there is no evidence relating to specific verses: you are left with nothing but 'wishful thinking' assertions.If you do not have anything solid to support your claim that those particular verses aren't simply contradictions then there is nothing to discuss.
All you are doing is stating a subjective opinion.

Then you have provided no argument at all. Good. We agree. The fact that people use similar exaggerations offers no support for you claims. You are guessing which absolutes are exaggerations.
You are guessing what the audience would understand as a compliment.
Your opinions are not supporting evidence to your claim. If the verses are not contradictory, then why are you trying to identify them as hyperbole? That is why you listed them!
And again, you try to shift the burden of proof.
If you are claiming that they are hyperbole, then you need to support that claim and not commit the fallacy of Appealing To Ignorance (useful link). No - I expected you to support your claims with more than just wishful thinking.
And since that first post you have made many other posts and they also contain no support for your assertions. I have asked that question several times and all you have managed is "We have to look at what is written." - which is as much use as the IDists claim that they will recognise design when they see it.So far, your claim of being able to show that certain verses in the bible are hyperbole has proven to be untrue.
All you have been able to do is say: "I think this verse is hyperbole. Prove it isn't."Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

The burden of proof is on your side. You are making the claims.
Your comment should be directed at yourself: The fact that you haven't told me how one detects hyperbole in the bible, tells me you probably don't know - which is a problem as you claim that you can. Fine.
But opinion is neither argument nor evidence. I am not saying that your arguments are opinions.
I am saying that your opinions are not arguments: they are just assertions.
If all you have is opinion then you have no argument. You have provided no support for your claim. You have only bare assertions.
And, as you should know by now, "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence". My position is that you do not have any reliable way to differentiate between hyperbole and fact.
All you have is "It looks like hyperbole to me!" which is little more than wishful thinking. Your subjective belief regarding the nature of the verses is just that. Ok - so there is no correct answer.
Well, that makes your whole thread pointless.
Is a verse hyperbole? No-one knows./thread