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frako Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Dr. David Berlinski - On Evolution (1/3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5r5cRlctLM Haha yea you can spot the guy who posted the video is a creationist the first second you see the video Comments disabled http://youtu.be/254wgTgxuj4 I guess he dosent like people pointing out his flaws. Oh and p.s. Dr. David Berlinski is actualy an agnostic he is just speculative. Edited by frako, : No reason given. Edited by frako, : No reason given.
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frako Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
What part of creationism is it that you contend is false and how does the TOE interfere with the proposition of creationism or ID? Well creationism and ID say that man and animals where created in their current form. Evolution states that the current form of man and animals evolved from other forms of animals. These statements are exclusive if evolution is true then creationism and ID cannot be true and if creationism or ID is true then evolution cannot be true. side note:This does not mean if evolution is wrong then creationism is true and if creationism is wrong then evolution is true.
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frako Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
If you differ then pls enlighten via scientific reasoning how this "INFINITE" universe came into being Zeuse used his lighting to light his fart on fire that is what made the universe npw porve this wrong or teach it in the classrooms as truth or prove your version true
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frako Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Can we see some examples of what is called BS in the Hebrew bible - whether from a view of science, history, geography, math or anything which has been disproven - none were given? Hows about the flood, the exodus, the leprosy cure, talking animals, the sun stopping, shadow of a sundial going backwards ...... i could go on forever As for the creationist claims cmmon just look at why do people laugh at creationists on youtube 34 episodes of pure bullshit and explenations why it is bullshit.
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frako Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
nope most rather say we just dont know yet
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frako Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Yes, the text for leprosy represents the first initiation of medicine as a faculty of science. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH HHAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH HHAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH HHAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Yea science get 2 pigueons kill one dip the feather of the other in the first ones blood sprincle the blood over the person (or a house) then let the piguen go away from the city. Yup sounds realy scientific to me hhahahahaahahah thanx for the laugh Edited by AdminModulous, : FORMATTING
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frako Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Hahaha the only thing Kent Hovind needs in this video is a foil hat
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frako Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined:
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then law, order, identifiable purpose and design are proof of a creator. So so laws like a2+b2=c2 is evidence of a creator ???? Or is this law just a natural property of a right angle triangle ???? Or do you have any other law in mind ??? And what is this order i keep hearing about all i see is randomness organizing itself according to its properties perfectly natural. Like throwing a coin 100000 times the number of times it lands on heads or tails "organises" itself do to its properties.
Please demonstrate how nature or natural causes is anything more than a display of nature? please demonstrate how natural causes is an explanation of soley natural causes natural cause an apple falls down a tree accelerating at roughly 10 meters per second do to the properties of the earth whos mass provides a gravitational force that pulls the apple twords the earth. No supernatural causes needed.
Please explain how law, order, identifiable purpose and design are less min evidence, or why the are inadequate to draw a conclusion, like that of natural causes. Because laws are the way things behave do to the properties they have like things with a higher mass need more energy to move as fast then things with less mass. Or a2+b2=c2 is a property of a right angle triangle, no creator or designer or magic unicorn needed for laws or the caos you call order.
keeping in mind you have completely bungled even the use of natural causes. There is only nature, not causes for nature. You are arguing like the ancient Greeks argued someone had to have lit the stars on fire so logically there has to be a magic person with a lighter to do that. If an anwser is not known like what "created/lit" our universe that does not mean that magic man had to do it it just means WE DO NOT KNOW YET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited by frako, : No reason given.
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frako Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined:
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I am always supprised how fare the religius bend scripture to suit their needs.
Big bang theory is science because the math holds up, the observable evidence holds up its predictions holds up. Creation by magic does not hold up because we have yet to obsrve magic in action, it has no predictive capabilities, and the math does not hold up. The theory of evolution and the fact of evolution hold up to the math, the evidence supports it, and its predictions hold up. Creation of lifeforms by magic does not hold up ecause we have yet to obsrve magic in action, it has no predictive capabilities, and the math does not hold up. Just because we do not understand something yet does not imply we have to use magic to explain it. A long time ago the earth was thought to be flat and floating on a giant turtle why noone knew the right anwser so they made something up, after that came the earth is the center of the universe theory noone knew so they made something up even locked people away who would say otherwise, not so long ago it was believed that life was made in its current form by a magic sky daddy noone knew so they made something up ..... You se where i am going with this if you cant back your claims up with evidence dont make shit up and preach it to be true just say we dont know it might save you some embarrisment in the future just ask the RCC
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frako Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined:
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The good thing about the only two logical possibilites is that no amount of information ever gathered will provide an alternative suggestion, nor will it overthrow those choices. it cant be changed. Why did the big bang go bang? Scientist: we dont knowCreationist: creator What was there before the big bang? Scientist: we dont knowCreationist creator Whyt started life?Scientist: we have a few working hypothesis Creationist: creator How did life came to be as it is nowScientist: Evolution Creationist: creator Why does gravitiy wor as it does?Scientist: we are working on it we have some working hypothesis Creationist: creator ........ Yea your creator theory works for everything lets jut dump all science down the drain and go with the creator theory it worked so well in the past remember the dark ages???
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frako Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined:
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Instead of all of this, just look at the logical possibilites, because if you reject the scriptures, that is all you have. Wouldnt you agree That would be the Viking scriptures right talk about a god right, he said im gonna deal wit those Ice giants once and for all and there has not been an ice giant around in thousands of years now that is what i call a miracle.
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