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Theodoric

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Message 3 of 46 (613940)
04-29-2011 12:40 PM

Reply to: Message 2 by Tram law
04-29-2011 12:22 PM

derailed on the 2nd post

I don't think Phat was looking for you to spout on about your personal beliefs and let us know about your personal axe to ground.

To address the topic.

I do not think there are simple definitions for liberal and conservative. We have had a couple threads about the political spectrum already. What we learned from those threads is that people can not be easily pigeonholed into conservative or liberal.

Now if you want to discuss what the current crops of "conservatives" and "liberals" stand for we could have an interesting conversation. But I do not think you will ever get clear definitions that there will be a general consensus on.

Notice how I replied to your post and not a general reply. If you had replied to the OP, Phat would have gotten an email letting him know there was a reply. Ever notice how on the bottom of posts there is a line that says what post the current post is a reply to and another line that shows if the post has been replied to. Maybe you do not think it is important to you, but a lot of us use those tools. Percy has built a great site with great tools. It would courteous to all users of this site if you would stop using the general reply button when you are replying to a specific post.

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Message 6 of 46 (613944)
04-29-2011 1:25 PM

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04-29-2011 1:13 PM

Topic?

I am not asking you to reply with the quote button. I am asking you to reply with the reply button, not the general reply button.

But since you have decided to be different and not be courteous to other members of this board I will let it go.

Now do you have anything to see that actually addresses the topic?

Do you agree or disagree that a simple definition of liberal and conservative is not possible?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Message 9 of 46 (613948)
04-29-2011 1:37 PM

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04-29-2011 1:34 PM

Tram law writes:

crashfrog writes:

Neither party cares about rights and individuality.

Neither party cares about the little guys any more.

No, I am not being facetious or sarcastic in any way. These are my own personal beliefs.

"Pox on both their houses" political cynicism is cute in 20-year-olds, but it's not supportable by anyone who actually pays attention to politics. There are actually legitimate differences between the parties - differences that, yes, do actually matter to "the little guys." Of course, most of what affects "the little guy" is a function of precisely the local politics you probably have never paid any attention to. Quick, without looking it up - who's the municipal comptroller for Weed, CA?

Actually I don't know that. I've never paid much to my town's politics.

Do you understand the point froggie is trying to make.

I used the rquote button on that reply. Quite a difference don't you think?

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Message 12 of 46 (613951)
04-29-2011 1:44 PM

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04-29-2011 1:39 PM

Re: Topic?

Tram law writes:

Theodoric writes:

I am not asking you to reply with the quote button. I am asking you to reply with the reply button, not the general reply button.

But since you have decided to be different and not be courteous to other members of this board I will let it go.

Now do you have anything to see that actually addresses the topic?

Do you agree or disagree that a simple definition of liberal and conservative is not possible?

No, you're not asking, you're demanding and doing everything you can to brow beat me into submission. And you're getting all upset over this and keep on harping on it when I said I don't agree with you.

You are the one who's creating this problem and who are continuing it it, not me, and in doing so you are derailing threads.

Stop making this an issue. It is not an issue.

And I don't have to agree to it. If I absolutely have to agree to it then it it is not a matter of common courtesy and is instead a hard rule.

Ok so we agree that it is a common courtesy issue, but you evidently don't feel you want to be courteous to other people on this board. Nice thing to know about you.

Now again I ask, do you have anything to say that actually addresses the topic?

Do you agree or disagree that a simple definition of liberal and conservative is not possible?

I have let the other subject so please do the same.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Message 15 of 46 (613956)
04-29-2011 1:52 PM

Reply to: Message 13 by Tram law
04-29-2011 1:45 PM

Language issue?

This is a serious question.

Is English not your first language? It would explain some communications issues you seem to be having.

And I would appreciate it if you would please stop calling me kid.

I don't see where anyone called you kid.

Also, you seeming inability to tell the difference between the reply and rquote buttons.

We have a lot of non-native english speakers that participate so it isn't an issue, just would allow us to understand some things and give you some slack on some things too.

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Message 21 of 46 (613962)
04-29-2011 2:28 PM

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04-29-2011 2:23 PM

Why shouldn't healthcare be in the private sector? Why should it be the government's job to provide healthcare?

Lets look at this another way.

Why should the government provide schools?
Why should the government provide roads?
Why should the government provide police protection?
Why should the government provide fire protection?

I can continue. Why do you think health care is different than the above?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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