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Yes, of course it is. No one contends with that, least of all, me.
In this thread, a distinction was made between thermodynamic entropy (a redundant phrase) and logical entropy (a label given to a concept which is neither axiomatic nor scientific.) I was pointing out that entropy is a thermodnamic quantity, not a logical contruct.
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I believe it does because of how axiomatic it is.
First of all, "logical entropy" is not axiomatic. In any event, as soon as an axiom is challenged, you cannot rely on its status as an axiom to refute the challenge. You must provide evidence for its validity.
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In fact, I think that kind of is a poor name for it.
I agree. Whatever you are talking about has nothing to do with entropy.
I think other posts have beaten me to the punch about Pasteur's experiments, which would only apply to this discussion if someone were contending that the first lifeforms sprang forth from chicken broth or rotten meat. In fact abiogenesis is the leading scientific theory for the origin of life on earth. Maybe God did just throw us here, but despite a few thousand years of looking, nobody has found any evidence of that happening.
I am not confusing equilibrium with order coming from disorder. The systems I referred to are not in equilibrium when considered on large time scales. Random events over time have created ordered structures. A natural rock arch is very different from a crystal lattice. There are not fundamental physical laws which say rocks must form in that structure. Yet there it is, perfectly "created" with enough material in the correct places to support its own immense weight, seemingly violating your "axiom" of "logical entropy"
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If entropy is associated with disorder, and entropy of the universe is headed towards maximum entropy, then how does the ordering process of evolution not directly contravene this law? This is the question asked by dissenters of evolution.
Entropy is often defined as a measure of disorder. This is a weak definition at best. It is a quantity which must increase in order to satisfy the first law of thermodynamics when heat is isothermally added to an thermal resevoir. Even that definition is at best incomplete. In the universe's march toward maximum entropy, ordered structures will ebb and flow out of existence. We see it all around us. Gas has condensed into stars which have associated into galaxies, which have associated into local groups of galaxies. Nebulae have consensed into solar systems with planets which fall into orbital resonances. There is a great deal of order coming from disorder. None of this violates the 2nd law of Thermodynamics.
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