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RAZD
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Message 20 of 109 (226580)
07-26-2005 8:51 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by CK
07-25-2005 12:54 PM


Re: 'Old on a minute...
Even the infinite regression issue is bad for ID.
If we start with 3 possibilities:
A
(1) god created it
(2) and intelligent designer did it
(3) it just happened
The first and third obviously negate the ID concept, so we are left with (2) for ID to work.
So now we ask 'Where did the IDude come from?' and there are 3 possibilities:
B
(1) god created it
(2) an intelligent designer did it
(3) it just happened
B1 is no different than A1 above except it has a "handyman" thrown in: it requires a god with no equivocation possible.
B3 is no different than A3 above except it has an "evolved manipulator" thrown in: it validates evolution with no equivocation.
B2 leads back to 'Where did the IDude come from?' and we're (follow the yellow brick road ...) on to level
C
(1) god created it
(2) an intelligent designer did it
(3) it just happened
Except for one little detail: the designer of the designer is a god. It has crossed the threshold because it has created, not just life, but life at least equal to it's own abilities.
It does not need to be an all-powerful all-seeing all-knowing etcetera
GOD!!!
(where did that echo come from?)
... it just needs to be of the level of any minor god of any pantheon ... pan or cupid come to mind ... to qualify as {a god}.
Thus at the third level we are either at "{a god} did it" or "it just happened" and the middle has been consumed.
Enjoy.

we are limited in our ability to understand
by our ability to understand
RebelAAmerican.Zen[Deist
{{{Buddha walks off laughing with joy}}}

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