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Author Topic:   Would confirmation of the "Biblical Exodus" add any support for God
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Message 23 of 56 (595222)
12-07-2010 2:05 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by jar
12-07-2010 1:46 PM


Re: What is the Exodus?
Setting aside the issue of conversations, Jon still has an excellent point. How much of the Exodus are you asking about? For example, I would think that three million people, together with their livestock and etc., surviving for decades in a desert would be remarkable evidence that would require an explanation of some sort.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 25 of 56 (595225)
12-07-2010 2:13 PM
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12-07-2010 2:07 PM


Re: What is the Exodus?
Well the first question it would raise in my mind is how. Under normal circumstances, that population would require tremendous amounts of water, which we normally don't expect a desert to provide, not to mention food. Now, if someone can come up with a mundane explanation for where that water came from that is no longer present, it would then eliminate the need for any kind of supernatural intervention.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 27 of 56 (595229)
12-07-2010 2:23 PM
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12-07-2010 2:21 PM


Re: How do you tell they were there?
So what evidence should be seen if a large population did exist on the Sinai Peninsula for four decades?
That, of course, is a completely different topic.
However, to briefly address it, at least some. That there is none speaks volumes about the historical accuracy of Exodus.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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Message 29 of 56 (595233)
12-07-2010 3:06 PM
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12-07-2010 2:49 PM


Re: How do you tell they were there?
Ok, fair enough.
Then my answer stands. If millions of people and animals lived in the desert for decades, they'd leave behind massive amounts of evidence. In the absence of such evidence, we can only conclude that it did not happen, RAZD's amusing ideas notwithstanding.
However, if there were evidence of such a massive population living there for so long and no evidence whatsoever showing how they might have fed and watered themselves, it would beg for an explanation. In such an event, I'd be willing to consider a supernatural explanation.
But of course, as you have pointed out, given the fact that the various books of the bible were written by different people of many years, even if one part of it has evidentiary support, that doesn't mean one has to accept the rest of it.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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