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Author Topic:   Religious Experiences - Evidence of God(s)?
Dr Adequate
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Message 7 of 55 (562736)
06-01-2010 5:47 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Straggler
05-31-2010 3:45 PM


Re: Religious Experiences - Evidence of God(s)?
Another question we might ask is about extreme experiences of there not being a God.
If a really intense feeling that there is a god is to be considered valid evidence, then what about an equally intense feeling that there isn't?
I have experienced both, and would discount both as guides to what is actually true. But how would anyone justify taking one of them seriously but not the other?

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Dr Adequate
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Message 10 of 55 (562748)
06-01-2010 8:58 AM
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06-01-2010 8:28 AM


Re: Religious Experiences - Evidence of God(s)?
Can you explain the difference between such an experience and say, the everyday experiences of there not being fire-breathing dogs?
I suspect you are talking about an emotional devastation and feeling of hopelessness, or dismay at being cheated and fooled. Perhaps a lack of direction or goals for your life, or the realization of your own mortality. Drawing a distinction between a feeling contradicting a deeply held belief rather than an accepted one might shed some light on the issue.
Actually, no, you're way off base.
Modulous has described it so that I have little more to add.
I am talking about a numinous awareness of reality, without any gods in it particularly; but there might be gods, but they'd just be more real things, like everything else.
Well, the sensation is hard to describe.
But this is completely different from the usual feeling I have that there is no God, which is comparable to the feeling I have that I am not incredibly rich, or immortal, or at least immune to the usual effects of smoking tobacco, and which might all be summarized by the word "damn".
The point is that one can have what feels like a "religious experience" which is in fact profoundly irreligious.
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