Where did the matter and energy come from?

Larni writes:The tail end of this thread:How did round planets form from the Big Bang?
EvC Forum: How did round planets form from the explosion of the Big Bang?had a suggestion of thins topic and I think it could be interesting as Cavediver seems inclined to be involved.So, where did all the matter and energy contained in the big bang come from or, what form did the matter and energy (for want of more accurate labels) have at that point?Kept having to remind my self not to put 'before' the big bang.Cosmology please.

Larni writes:This is a science thread, friend.It does not need to be cluttered up with Allah or Yahweh or Odin or Zeus or what ever one of the many gods you happen to believe in.

Buzsaw writes:

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There is no more "substrate". There is no more lower level stuff. There is no more modelling.

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Mmm, those same properties of the supernatural are disallowed in the science fora.

xXGEARXx writes:This is where I really get lost. I completely do not understand where it all ends. I totally get how the big bang could have happened. Possibly one superforce, then they split apart, etc. I know, I know, I am really dumding it down. The real issue I have is grasping what starts it all. If indeed there are Branes that touch and make big bangs, that would conclude parallel universes. Ok fine, but where does it end? Where is the generator that creates the branes?This is the problem religion runs into, which by the way, I am agnostic for whatever it is worth. Religion says there is a God or Gods. This "entity" has just simply existed. Well, ok, I guess maybe?? Problem there lies in the fact no such being has been seen or found in the universe. Ever. Science dictates for something to be correct it has to be observed and measured. Other than that a theroy is then created-based on facts. At least the core facts anyway. Even M theory is based on factual mathmatics. This is another reason why religion fails. How can you mathmatically prove the stories in the bible or koran for instance? You can't.So all of that being said. Is it really that there is never a "beginning"? Just simply deeper and deeper mysteries? Strings and branes and such? If that is the case then infinity and
particles are reality. Non living materials are immortal and we just happen (life that is) to be a by product, an accident if you will. Heck, maybe that is the real answer. Non living created the living. Always would have?I would love to hear what some of you think about this. I just can't wrap my brain around where it all starts-if it even does.By the way, Islam teaches that Allah's throne is larger than the entire universe. That is one big throne, lol?One other point that I would like to make about a supreme being. It is POSSIBLE that life was created in another universe. One with different rules than our own universe, of course. A being of energy that developed intelligence by accident, evolved if you will. That being learned how to manipulate space time, energy, etc. Even down to the quantum level. This being could pass from universe to universe and do whatever it liked. To all of us, that being would be God-or some version of that. I am not convinced that this even happened, but consider this. M theory involves an infinite number of universes. That would also mean infinite possiblities... who knows where it ends. I feel honored to even have been born with a brain that allows me to be self aware and can grasp how much more there is beyond us.